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DawgB0 03-21-2012 07:38 AM

needs help with compare
 
I can buy 1 of those supra one is 87 but have starting system plm cant start it and other one is 92 but flooded with oil in spark plugs hard time to fire up but havent make it run yet
Both is turbo&Stick! Both stock both is same but which is best by performore, weight, torque, n body? Yes im trying to mod it to 10 sec street car but daily driver much as possible but nt nessecery have muti cars so yea

both almost same dirty cheap and im mechanic myself but nt aware with 7m just yet.

Attila 03-21-2012 12:25 PM

go with the 92 newer is always better. If both are the same. The '92 has the progressive power steer whereas the 87 does not. Plus, now I'm not 100% sure of this but the 92 will have an LSD and the 87 will not.

pandrade 03-21-2012 02:23 PM

my 87 has an lsd, just cause its newer doesent mean its better imo

DawgB0 03-21-2012 03:14 PM

aight thanks for the opinions, if i brought me 92, end up i got bhg with spark plugs covered with oil instend 87 no problem with HG, but have problem with wiring harass and was told that it needed to be replaced can that help stop short out wiring when it got warm, cold start with no problem so what you think? Last one, which one is lighter too?:dunno:

cre 03-21-2012 06:14 PM

No weight difference from one year to another... nothing more than 5 or 10 pounds anyway.

ALL Turbo models came with LSD, JDM models had two different types available depending on the powerplant and trim.

Never buy a car based on year if it's the same generation. The MKIII wasn't all that different in '92 as it was in '87... It's rarer, but either one could have been beaten within an inch of its life on a daily basis. As old as these cars are the individual vehicle's production date means VERY little. There were differences which started accruing in '89 but they're nothing I would base a purchase on.

I'd love to advise you further Dawg, but I just can't understand you. Sorry.

DawgB0 03-21-2012 06:30 PM

Basic im trying to buy me almost any mk3 turbo stick n runs for dirty cheap so i can drive it around for while then once i got my money again im about mod it to 10 sec street car/daily driver..

Maybe later today im goin back to that 92 and try clean the sparks then fire it up if not i might dont want, i see alot oil yeaterday inside the pistons not top of spark plugs under..
When i try start it it kinda runs but sluggish and dies when i let go the clutch.

Another one 87 most of them parts is new as i was told but having problem with starting system im not sure jus yet personaly i will check it out on friday. And was told that i might need to swap new wiring harass for it to runs better.

cre 03-21-2012 10:14 PM

Oil in the cylinders most likely poured in when the spark plugs were pulled. Otherwise you'd most likely have a chocolate sludge in there as the coolant would have started pouring into the cylinder long before the oil as the oil jackets are further out, smaller and on the other side of the big coolant jackets... I would expect you to already know this.

Look in the FAQ section for a thread on checking diagnostic/error codes and do so when you go look at the vehicles. Unfortunately, if they've rest the ECU or disconnected the battery you won't find any codes indicating detected problems but it's worth checking and only about 5% of sellers think to do this (or are dishonest enough to do it).

Oil in the spark plug galley will cause sluggish performance and oil dumped into the cylinder may foul the spark plugs before the engine has a chance to burn it off. If it's sluggish check the timing, spark plugs, spark plug wires and check for signs of a BHG.


DO NOT BUY A MKIII AS BOTH PROJECT CAR AND DAILY DRIVER!!! A crap MKIII is going to be a garage queen for a long time or it'll cost you a fortune to just keep it running... In which case you can forget about ever being able to afford proper mods and upgrading. These are not a cheap car to restore and upgrading one that's in poor shape is a joke. Honestly, trying to daily drive a MKIII bought on the cheap is usually catastrophic.

DawgB0 03-21-2012 10:28 PM

i was planning to rebuild it to imperfect later within few months after i drives it as it is thats why I'm firm with which one i should get and yeah you are right i should mod it to one reason but i can say more likely after a while it will become my weekend ride only if you know what i means so yeah I'm ready to spend at less 10k on the engine and upgrade everything much as possible jus like supra girl and she's WOMAN smh so impressed.

Ranma 03-22-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgB0 (Post 101713)
i was planning to rebuild it to imperfect later within few months after i drives it thats why I'm firm with which one i should get and yeah you are right i should mod it to one reason but i can say more likely after a while it will become my weekend ride only if you know what i means so yeah I'm ready to spend at less 10k on the engine and upgrade everything much as possible jus like supra girl and she's WOMAN smh so impressed.

The problem is what you will break during this time. If you put it right before it breaks it is cheaper. Now take my red breasted money sucker (coinrapicus ruber), things are still going wrong. He still is not ready to be a daily.

Do you understand?

DawgB0 03-22-2012 05:50 PM

Huh no, i know what im doing. U do? Um no.

Ranma 03-22-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgB0 (Post 101735)
Huh no, i know what im doing. U do? Um no.

Never said you did not, I just have a bit of experience undergoing unexpected problems. You must remember these cars are a 1/4 of a century old. My guy should probably have been scrapped. Now my problems are very small :) but I am fussy ;)

DawgB0 03-22-2012 10:21 PM

lol duh i owns 88 g20 van need to be rebuilding engine n 86 deville RARE! i needed to swap the transmission it went bad on me so yeah i have experience wit old skool rides but HELL i love them old skools over any new cars they all UGLY!! about buy more lik chevelle, gt350 shebly, camaro, many more. back to the point, my gut and vibe keep telling me to go back to 92 at any cost but more like im goin toward to 87 instend i was told it was loop wires in starting system which im more aware with

87hilux7mge 03-26-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgB0 (Post 101738)
lol duh i owns 88 g20 van need to be rebuilding engine n 86 deville RARE! i needed to swap the transmission it went bad on me so yeah i have experience wit old skool rides but HELL i love them old skools over any new cars they all UGLY!! about buy more lik chevelle, gt350 shebly, camaro, many more. back to the point, my gut and vibe keep telling me to go back to 92 at any cost but more like im goin toward to 87 instend i was told it was loop wires in starting system which im more aware with

ok...you really need to use some grammar and punctuation here. i have literally no F***ing idea what you are trying to say. :dunno: and if you cant communicate with us, we cant help. sorry, simple fact there. you need to CLEARLY relay your ideas, concerns and questions so we can assist you. got it?

now, lets try this again...

if choosing between the 87 and 92, id honestly go with the 87. DO NOT expect this car to be a daily right out of the gate. if you want a daily, get a corolla or camry. either one of these cars will be a project car for you to start with. if you are planning to dump 10+ K into one of these cars, your better off spending the first chunk on fixing existing problems, and doing proper maintenance that has probably been missed. this will at least get the car in drivable condition, and give you a better idea of the starting platform you have, which will in turn let you know what you need to do to reach your goals. these cars can be nightmares to work on, but when they work right, they rock.

focus on fixing it and getting it into reliable working condition, then move onto upgrading. and lastly...GRAMMAR!!!!:eek3:


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