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CanadianBak'inSupra 02-04-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pandrade (Post 100507)
i thought they did. my mk3 comes whith the 2 cup holder in the center concel but the lift piece will crush it if the drink is not big enough

yes sir! 89 plus!

Ranma 02-06-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cre (Post 100754)
Depends on just how tight you want the ride. If you just want firmer handling in the turns but only a little difference over stock in ride quality the rest of the time, I'd just go with ST and play with the low and medium settings. No need for a super beefy bar unless you're regularly taking the car to the track on weekends.

I do not race due to my medical condition, so I want to make him a bit tighter without too hard a ride. So which st sway bar do you recommend? I am willing to pay more for quality, going cheap has burned me too many times.

Oh my guy is still turning policemen's heads. Crossed the mother road on the QT and got up to 35 and noticed one on my tail and another ahead of me. Think they are attracted to the sound. While not loud it carries. 35 is the speed limit though most people take longer getting to it *looks innocent*

cre 02-07-2012 02:48 AM

ST is a brand: Suspension Techniques. If you get a sway bar that feels too stiff you can always buy adjustable end-links or have longer ones made; So don't concern yourself too much with it being too stiff. :bigthumb:

pandrade 02-07-2012 01:25 PM

Whiteline also makes a good set dont they?

cre 02-07-2012 08:14 PM

Yes, from what I've been told Whiteline is one of the best if you're looking for a rigid bar. I've only got reviews to go on, but they're from people that I know who've tried them along with other bars such as ST's. I liked the Suspension Techniques sway bar and for an aggressive yet still casual DD this is what I'd recommend for most people and even then probably only on the first or second tension level. As I mentioned, the rigidity of the bar isn't all that's involved in determining the rigidity of the ride and you can make adjustments to mellow out a bar that's too aggressive, but only to a degree and it usually requires additional hardware.

A word of warning for those looking for a teeth rattling rigid experience: The lower mount for the end links MUST have reinforcements welded on. People have found these mounting tabs are VERY prone to snapping off the arm even with ST's when under significant preload or when a very solid bar is used.

pandrade 02-07-2012 10:18 PM

will the toe kit i mentiond on the previouse page take care of that or would it still need to be renforced

cre 02-07-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pandrade (Post 100859)
will the toe kit i mentiond on the previouse page take care of that or would it still need to be renforced

The sway bar mounts don't look any beefier than the factory ones... They're just not 20+years old.

One of the reviews:
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Originally Posted by HPF Customer Review
Finish appears to be fair (one coat of black enamel). Will have it powder coated before reinstallation. upper sway bar tab could be beefier. Price is too high compared to expected quality.


Ranma 02-09-2012 09:45 PM

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So why would new ones be any better? When I got him replaced the bushings in the rear end. One was rather dry rotted and the others did not seem much better.
I am not an auto mechanic and my thing is aircraft structures. So how would putting in a newer model be any better?

cre 02-10-2012 01:07 AM

Why would new what be better? Front and rear sway bars? Well for one I've seen some stockers which were warped... not from any mad racing, just 20 years of stress. But also they're desirable because the replacements we're referring to are thicker and reduce body roll to a greater degree than even new OEM bars will (very desirable for cruising twisty mountain roads or for drifting like a madman).

There is such a thing as too much; If excessive you may loose traction on both wheels if you hit a significant bump. The tighter the bar the more of any given shock is transferred to the opposite Wheel. So, for every bit of dampening you remove, you remove the some of the suspension's ability to cope with significant and sudden changes in the vehicle's yaw and roll. To put it simply: Stiff suspension may only be preferable for smooth and predictable turns. It is possible to turn this to your advantage with additional mods and learning to drive differently.

pandrade 02-10-2012 03:18 PM

this is geting to be a very intresting thread!


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