usdm vs. jdm r154.. any differences?

2jzgte · 01-27-2011, 11:11 PM

Are there and differences between a jdm and a usdm r154?

cre · 01-27-2011, 11:15 PM

None, why, how much more do they want for the JDM tyte-ness?

2jzgte · 01-29-2011, 04:07 AM

It's like 700 - 900 more. I am picking up an 87 supra(7m-ge) this weekend and have been planning a 2jzgte swap. I see the engine with auto trans from an aristo on ebay all the time for like 1700 - 1900. I found a 2j on ebay a couple days ago that came with an r154 already installed. about 35k on motor and they didn't list anything for tranny. I think it's kinda sketch since the trans didn't have any info. I dont want to have to rebuild it right off the bat. What price range is normal(to be expected) for an r154?

any info would be appreciated.

cre · 01-29-2011, 05:00 AM

Ah, you didn't specify that they may be different vintages... AFAIK, the later R154s do have some more robust internals. I do not know of any other differences between USDM and JDM when comparing like years though.

They may not think the transmission is worth a lot or don't have any additional info about it and just need to move it out. The only thing you can do is contact them and ask for as much info as possible.

I've seen them run from as little as $200 dollars up to $500 for a stock one and depending on mileage. A local guy here just gave one away .

Travis89Turbo · 02-11-2011, 06:01 PM

The jdm r154 doesn't have a ABS sensor. And the Aristo tranny has a weird shift lever extension on it that won't work in an mkiii. But the good news is people with an sc or BMW lookn to swap the jz in pay top dollar for the one with the extension I've seen them sell for over a grand. You need either a 1jz r154 or a US 7mgte tranny but then you would have to use the jz belhousing.

cre · 02-13-2011, 10:35 AM

Half the USDM R154's don't have the ABS sensor either... I don't think they've for the flywheel for it either, so if ABS is an issue you could have that problem no matter who you get it from. It is a good point though that no matter where you source it, if you have ABS make sure that the internal flywheel that the ABS sensor reads is present if the donor vehicle didn't have ABS.

Was ABS never an option in Japan for the MKIII? I highly doubt it. If you're judging that off of some that you've seen do keep in mind that ABS was only an option in North America, not standard equipment on any year as far as I remember.

01-27-2011, 11:11 PM	#1
2jzgte Stock Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7	usdm vs. jdm r154.. any differences? Are there and differences between a jdm and a usdm r154?

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cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	None, why, how much more do they want for the JDM tyte-ness? __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

01-29-2011, 05:00 AM	#4
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Ah, you didn't specify that they may be different vintages... AFAIK, the later R154s do have some more robust internals. I do not know of any other differences between USDM and JDM when comparing like years though. They may not think the transmission is worth a lot or don't have any additional info about it and just need to move it out. The only thing you can do is contact them and ask for as much info as possible. I've seen them run from as little as $200 dollars up to $500 for a stock one and depending on mileage. A local guy here just gave one away . __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

02-11-2011, 06:01 PM	#5
Travis89Turbo 12psi boost Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 332	The jdm r154 doesn't have a ABS sensor. And the Aristo tranny has a weird shift lever extension on it that won't work in an mkiii. But the good news is people with an sc or BMW lookn to swap the jz in pay top dollar for the one with the extension I've seen them sell for over a grand. You need either a 1jz r154 or a US 7mgte tranny but then you would have to use the jz belhousing. __________________ 1995 Toyota Supra SE 71k miles. Master power T70 stock 2jzge 1989 Toyota Supra. 1jzgte swap 5 speed of course.. Driftmotion 60-1 single turbo kit. Cxracing FMIC. 2jz 550cc injectors... soon to come..... EMS Stinger. BC 264 cams 680cc injectors Spec stage 4 clutch and A LOT of boost!------SOLD 1999 Ford F350 diesel 2004 Jaguar XJR Supercharged If it hasnt broke you haven pushed it hard enough!!

02-13-2011, 10:35 AM	#6
cre Toyota Racing Development Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,038	Half the USDM R154's don't have the ABS sensor either... I don't think they've for the flywheel for it either, so if ABS is an issue you could have that problem no matter who you get it from. It is a good point though that no matter where you source it, if you have ABS make sure that the internal flywheel that the ABS sensor reads is present if the donor vehicle didn't have ABS. Was ABS never an option in Japan for the MKIII? I highly doubt it. If you're judging that off of some that you've seen do keep in mind that ABS was only an option in North America, not standard equipment on any year as far as I remember. __________________ If something breaks or you need to contact a member of the administration please post HERE. Unless it's a private or administration matter please post it on the forum. It benefits no one else if car related questions aren't posted for future users and takes away from the time I'm able to spend helping on the rest of the forum. If you're so inclined I'm always more than happy to accept tips via PayPal. Tip Jar --->

01-29-2011, 04:07 AM	#3
2jzgte Stock Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7	It's like 700 - 900 more. I am picking up an 87 supra(7m-ge) this weekend and have been planning a 2jzgte swap. I see the engine with auto trans from an aristo on ebay all the time for like 1700 - 1900. I found a 2j on ebay a couple days ago that came with an r154 already installed. about 35k on motor and they didn't list anything for tranny. I think it's kinda sketch since the trans didn't have any info. I dont want to have to rebuild it right off the bat. What price range is normal(to be expected) for an r154? any info would be appreciated.

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