&M-GTE head on the 7M-GE

zby67 · 10-20-2010, 03:49 AM

ok i found a thread on here that talks about it but cant refind it. and was wondering if this is possible? for better air flow and was wondering if i put the Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams on if it will be better or just hinder? and looking for a good description on why i would be bad or if it will work? im not looking to run the GTE distributor just trying to get better air flow by using the vortex rather then the vein air flow.

Sonyps307 · 10-20-2010, 04:00 AM

Well the stock 7mge cams r better then the turbo cams they r more aggressive but if u at putting the stage 2 cams it would be good

t12tninja · 10-20-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zby67

ok i found a thread on here that talks about it but cant refind it. and was wondering if this is possible? for better air flow and was wondering if i put the Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams on if it will be better or just hinder? and looking for a good description on why i would be bad or if it will work? im not looking to run the GTE distributor just trying to get better air flow by using the vortex rather then the vein air flow.

i was wondering the same thing and you have basically the same year and engine i have thats awesome and same time too i just got mine also

zby67 · 10-20-2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by t12tninja

i was wondering the same thing and you have basically the same year and engine i have thats awesome and same time too i just got mine also

lol i have 2 an 86.5 and a 87 both with the GE engine though the 87 wont start she wants to but wont and so im gunna rebuild and this is what im asking about the head and if it will help with air flow and give better performance.

zby67 · 10-20-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonyps307

Well the stock 7mge cams r better then the turbo cams they r more aggressive but if u at putting the stage 2 cams it would be good

so then better air flow with the vortex would work and no issues?

btwilson86 · 10-20-2010, 04:33 AM

GTE and GE share the same head. Only difference is one of the camshafts (exhaust, I believe).

Basically, use your GE head and save money

Sonyps307 · 10-20-2010, 04:35 AM

I'm guessing u can put the swap in vortex I don't know but if the cams have more lift and longer Duration more air flow

Brain crower cams

Stage Description Part# Adv. Dur. Dur @ .050 Lift (in) Lift (mm) Kit# Dyno Shop Status

Street/Strip Specification
Plug and play application. Short duration for nice street manners, slight lope at idle. Excellent all purpose spec. OEM spring OK.

Duration Lift
BC0321 264°/264° 220°/220° .336"/.336" 8.53/8.53 BC0320

Race Specification
Longer duration profile, added rpm potential. Intended for fully built engine. Tuning and ECU mods recommended. Requires kit BC0320.

BC0322 272°/272° 226°/226° .342"/.342" 8.68/8.68 BC0320

USDM 7MGTE (’87-’92 MKIII) Stock

256°/256° 201°/201° .297"/.297" 7.54/7.54

zby67 · 10-20-2010, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by btwilson86

GTE and GE share the same head. Only difference is one of the camshafts (exhaust, I believe).

Basically, use your GE head and save money

they dont look the same the GE uses the vein looking throttle body well the GTE uses the vortex... and thats what im wondering about if u put the vortex on the GE if you would get better air flow.

7M-GE
http://got-jdm.com/JDM/images/JDM-To...ngblock-90.jpg

7M-GTE
http://got-jdm.com/JDM/images/JDM-To...ngblock-91.jpg

and if its not the head im thinking of can i put the GTE's plentuem i think its called on the GE? and srry if i spelled that wrong and i probably made a complete fool of my self here at any rate lol.

btwilson86 · 10-20-2010, 04:48 AM

Oh, okay. Those are the intake plenum's and the throttle body's.

The GE intake utilizes the Toyota ACIS system (info found here), whereas the GTE intake does not. Without this system, you will likely notice a decrease in power.

For example, 7M Cressidas are rated at about 15hp less than GE Supra's. Cressidas use an intake design more similar to the GTE than the GE.

btwilson86 · 10-20-2010, 04:50 AM

Here's a Cressida 7M

10-20-2010, 03:49 AM	#1
zby67 3" Exhaust Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Moving Posts: 85	&M-GTE head on the 7M-GE ok i found a thread on here that talks about it but cant refind it. and was wondering if this is possible? for better air flow and was wondering if i put the Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams on if it will be better or just hinder? and looking for a good description on why i would be bad or if it will work? im not looking to run the GTE distributor just trying to get better air flow by using the vortex rather then the vein air flow. __________________ 1986.5 MA70 7M-GE 1987 MA70 7M-GE Last edited by zby67; 10-20-2010 at 04:34 AM.

10-20-2010, 04:33 AM	#6
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	GTE and GE share the same head. Only difference is one of the camshafts (exhaust, I believe). Basically, use your GE head and save money __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

10-20-2010, 04:48 AM	#9
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Oh, okay. Those are the intake plenum's and the throttle body's. The GE intake utilizes the Toyota ACIS system (info found here), whereas the GTE intake does not. Without this system, you will likely notice a decrease in power. For example, 7M Cressidas are rated at about 15hp less than GE Supra's. Cressidas use an intake design more similar to the GTE than the GE. __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

10-20-2010, 04:50 AM	#10
btwilson86 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Billings, Montana Posts: 1,034	Here's a Cressida 7M __________________ 1989 7MGTE R154 Targa Top White Package w/Blue Interior Driftmotion 57trim CT26, Upgraded Intercooler, 2.25" Hard Pipes, 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with Test Pipe, HKS VPC w/GM 3 bar MAP sensor, APEXi S-AFC, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, ProSport EVO Series Boost / Fuel Pressure / AFR gauges, Lotek a Pillar Gauge Pod, HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer, Eibach Lowering Springs, Tokico Illumina II TEMS struts, custom powder coated Motegi Racing TrakLite wheels

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Sonyps307 Lexus & 550's Join Date: May 2010 Location: Baltimore Posts: 526	Well the stock 7mge cams r better then the turbo cams they r more aggressive but if u at putting the stage 2 cams it would be good

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Sonyps307 Lexus & 550's Join Date: May 2010 Location: Baltimore Posts: 526	I'm guessing u can put the swap in vortex I don't know but if the cams have more lift and longer Duration more air flow Brain crower cams Stage Description Part# Adv. Dur. Dur @ .050 Lift (in) Lift (mm) Kit# Dyno Shop Status Street/Strip Specification Plug and play application. Short duration for nice street manners, slight lope at idle. Excellent all purpose spec. OEM spring OK. Duration Lift BC0321 264°/264° 220°/220° .336"/.336" 8.53/8.53 BC0320 Race Specification Longer duration profile, added rpm potential. Intended for fully built engine. Tuning and ECU mods recommended. Requires kit BC0320. BC0322 272°/272° 226°/226° .342"/.342" 8.68/8.68 BC0320 USDM 7MGTE (’87-’92 MKIII) Stock 256°/256° 201°/201° .297"/.297" 7.54/7.54