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zby67 10-20-2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by btwilson86 (Post 89200)
Oh, okay. Those are the intake plenum's and the throttle body's.

The GE intake utilizes the Toyota ACIS system (info found here), whereas the GTE intake does not. Without this system, you will likely notice a decrease in power.

For example, 7M Cressidas are rated at about 15hp less than GE Supra's. Cressidas use an intake design more similar to the GTE than the GE.

so then vary vary bad idea to put that plenum of GTE on the GE ok thank you for the info! im trying to get the GE up as high as i can with out going turbo. im not one for turbo's.

Sonyps307 10-20-2010 04:55 AM

And the ge pipes had 2 vs 1 I think the ge intake would move more air then the gte pipe would with out a turbo forcing it in

zby67 10-20-2010 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by btwilson86 (Post 89201)

the cressida looks like shit lol!

zby67 10-20-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonyps307 (Post 89203)
And the ge pipes had 2 vs 1 I think the ge intake would move more air then the gte pipe would with out a turbo forcing it in

ok that makes sense. so with the stage 2 cams cold air intake and posably a 75mm tip and pipe with boring over by .20 or .40 how much hp gain would that get granted boring over costs alot and i plan on rebuilding the GE anyway.

so if you put the vain throttle body and plenum on the GTE it would get better air flow?

Green7mgte 10-20-2010 02:49 PM

not being negative but if your not into turbo's why did you buy so many supras. Nissan would abeen a good bet.

zby67 10-20-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Green7mgte (Post 89220)
not being negative but if your not into turbo's why did you buy so many supras. Nissan would abeen a good bet.

ok the first one i got i got 2 yrs before i got my license. it took $900 to get her running. as soon as she fired i fell in love with the MK3 plus as soon as i saw her being towed into the drive way i loved the body style. which is why i wont go MKIV ( dont like how 93's up look ) and as iv said when i get the 1990 supra i want ill go balls to the wall. and rebuilding the 7M-GE and restoring the 87 i have will give me a good background of how to rebuild the engine and will help in the long run when i find the 90 supra with the 7M-GTE and the r154 trans. im just trying to stay away from the turbos cause of the added problems there could be. till i can understand the engine from the inside out. plus i only like the nissan skyline and thats a hard car to find in IL.

907mge 10-21-2010 02:52 AM

I think you need to go take a 7mgte for a test drive and you will forget all about the 7mge. I drove my friends 7mgte the other day and once you hit boost you will be addicted. If you are going to all the trouble of rebuilding a 7m why not make it a gte. A 7mgte stock will beat out a modified 7mge anyday. As long as you take care of the main wear items there is no way a turbo should not be as reliable as a na. I did the same thing with my na and it is still slow compared to a turbo.

The intake manifolds are different because the turbo forces air while the na sucks it in and I think it is the intake cam that is different.

zby67 10-21-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 907mge (Post 89245)
I think you need to go take a 7mgte for a test drive and you will forget all about the 7mge. I drove my friends 7mgte the other day and once you hit boost you will be addicted. If you are going to all the trouble of rebuilding a 7m why not make it a gte. A 7mgte stock will beat out a modified 7mge anyday. As long as you take care of the main wear items there is no way a turbo should not be as reliable as a na. I did the same thing with my na and it is still slow compared to a turbo.

The intake manifolds are different because the turbo forces air while the na sucks it in and I think it is the intake cam that is different.

im sure it is lol. but with the mods iv picked with getting the GTE it would make the total 11,600 something with out the body. and as iv said ill wait to go out when i get the 1990 supra i want to get.

bioskyline 10-21-2010 07:33 PM

the heads are the same. the gaskets for intake and exhaust are the same for turbo or non. even a 5m head will fit the 7m (and thus the 6m), but i believe you have to change the pistons to match the head.

both cams (IN and EX) are different from what my interchange is showing me. from what ive seen around and heard, the ge cams on a gte give you about 15-30 hp gain, i guess it depends on if using new cams or used cams.

zby67 11-08-2010 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bioskyline (Post 89263)
the heads are the same. the gaskets for intake and exhaust are the same for turbo or non. even a 5m head will fit the 7m (and thus the 6m), but i believe you have to change the pistons to match the head.

both cams (IN and EX) are different from what my interchange is showing me. from what ive seen around and heard, the ge cams on a gte give you about 15-30 hp gain, i guess it depends on if using new cams or used cams.

how can the heads be the same if the GE uses a distributor and the GTE has coil packs...? would there be any issues with the GE if you put coil packs on it instead of the distributor?


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