Really? I doubt the auto is that poor. Have you driven one? 2nd gear has a pretty lunge to it, and other than a quicker line start, I would only see a 5 speed with a slight advantage. Not sure if I would place the difference that high. Seems to perform as listed stock around 200 hp.

I'd like to try out a 5 speed.

Yea the 5 speed is fun to drive

my 2 cents on the screamer
 

I'll weigh in here,
my turbo 1988 is a weak little kitten. very unimpressive.
BUT when you spool up the turbo and it hits, it is a pure screamer and drives your back into the seat like almost no other car I've been in... it's pure grins and giggles... way more exciting feel than say my Acura Integra and other much quicker cars. It 'feels' a lot faster than a Porsche Boxster for example. Don't know what the numbers would say, but comparatively, that Boxster is a bore. (I think the tires are too grippy for it's own good).

I also hear the stock non-turbo feels faster and stronger by a measurable amount if you compare it to the turbo and don't have the turbo boost up. There's different compression ratios etc... that make the N/A car feel faster at low revs, low torque etc... But again, I have to guess the N/A can't really compare to the turbo on boost or full boost. My two cents. And by the way, I am driving an auto. (I wonder a lot about the 5 speed - I got sold all the parts to convert it with the car, but am a) 'chicken' to convert at the moment, b) have to use in heavy traffic until I have another daily driver c) dealing with some other significant mechanical problems that have the car sidelined and un-driveable until I repair them (mystery top front motor coolant leak, and very bad PS fluid leak for example).

My non turbo 5speed was just rebuild and now has higher compression then stock it pulls pretty good and the non turbo also has more aggressive cams then the turbo

Actually the na has the same cam lift as the turbo its just the na exhaust cam is timed a little different, I have not put a degree gauge on each one to check but you can visibly see a slight difference in how they are clocked on the cam.

The na also has a different geared rear end and more power and torque on low end than a turbo does. So off the line the na is more fun but after 5 seconds when your up to full boost and going good the turbo just pulls and pulls then pulls some more. Just gotta watch out for wheel spin going into second and third gear and fourth gear if you have more than stock boost.

I love my na for a good nice reliable car but I also love my turbo to haul ass and take names.

Yea that y I'm getting ready to get a supra turbo as a toy and keep my na as my every day

i dont know, my auto still flys when you punch it. the beauty of a an auto is no turbo lag changing gears:bigthumb: