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ochowdero 09-13-2010 02:00 AM

air filter! great blog i think
 
ok heres the rundown..
i wanted to make my own CAI..
i know this is possible.. i couldnt remove the air box to even change the filter(still dont know how to do so) ill figure it out haha...
BUT!
i was reading post about it just to get an idea and i came across this.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...-possible.html

this gave me everything i need to know.. included a very good(blog?) on them
heres the link to that,

http://www.planetsoarer.com/resonator/resonator.html

^^^^ this will tell you everything about the intake, resonator and why short rams or CAI dont do much effect on a N/A supra...

now to my question..
i was gonna go out and buy pipes and clamps for me to put a CAI together but what i was gonna do til i got money to do so, was just take the air box and remove that, buy a cone filter and build a custom box around the cone filter and attach a bendable storm pipe to a custom hole in my new airbox(tightly fitted by the way) and place the end piping just under the headlight or a tad lower with a mesh screen to keep less dirt and crap out, so i keep everything stock but still bring in colder air..

would this be better then a aftermarket cold air intake?
im all for performance and best way to do so(cheap way!!) is to bring in colder air..but those after market ones take out the resonator and now i dont want to do that... so would this work?

cre 09-13-2010 02:12 AM

Good (or Bad) God you need to learn how to f#$%ing search.... Wanna guess how many times all of this has been discussed here in the past?

A tightly boxed in cone filter isn't going to flow any better then the stock box... probably worse due the the incredible amount of turbulence you're introducing... unless the cone filter really is a true CONE. Just leave the stock air box in and use a TOYOTA filter, NOT FRAM, and you'll be getting as good of flow as a N/A is capable of anyway... and the stock setup is CAI too.

cre 09-13-2010 02:23 AM

I'm sorry, I overreacted a bit. You did find a good amount about what you're asking about.... the rest has been covered to a degree but I've pretty much recapped in my rant above.

ochowdero 09-13-2010 02:30 AM

well sheesh
ive been searching,
hence all that mumbo jumbo above my question..
i know about the cone filters and how there bad..some atleast
when i said tightly fitted i meant the pipe going down below my headlightjust like the stock air box, just using a different filter and lowering it alil more..

i would like some credit..not my best formed question.. as to see if my idea is initially just like AM cold air, or not..
all i wanted to know was if id gain any hp
even if its 2 lol

thats all, i wrote alot to just clarify my question and what i was doing so all you had to basically say was "no, its a CAI already, should just leave the stock air box...and youll be good"

thanks cre..
ill keep everything the same stock air box and all, and just lower it a tad just to get alil more cold air, only cuz it seems to be really hot under my hood.

sorry for my lack of searching........

ochowdero 09-13-2010 02:37 AM

oh and i know i wont gain hp..
but id like that :D

oh and its cool bro,
all in all you know more about this then i do.
im just trying to learn as much as i can..so i dont have to ask you know?

more savvy about cars then when i first joined this forum :werd:

cre 09-13-2010 03:13 AM

I already apologized. That's all you get. I don't be for forgiveness unless there's blood on my hands and she was REALLY cute.... or it was someone's puppy.

ochowdero 09-13-2010 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre (Post 87768)
I already apologized. That's all you get. I don't be for forgiveness unless there's blood on my hands and she was REALLY cute.... or it was someone's puppy.

i dont need forgiveness..
i need answers
thanks i got them, searched alil more and found out that they can increase alil hp
but not much to really recognize
gonna soon, post pics on what i did..when i get the chance

Green7mgte 09-13-2010 04:44 AM

first off the stock air box is a cold air intake..
and it works remarkably well..
you see all these guys running around with this huge air filter in the engine bay.. does nothing but reduce power. hot turbulent air =s hp loss

the stock air box is designed well. yea if you take it off and yadda yadda w/e..

walks away mumbling.. something something fuck this shit...

cre 09-13-2010 04:51 AM

Just build an L shaped wall that the intake runs through (as shown in a number of threads on here) and you may call it done. If you want you may run a flexible dryer hose or some vinyl rain gutter from the foglight hole (yep, gotta lose the foglight) up to the opening to your boxed in area. The hose doesn't do anything if it's just run down behind the foglight.

ochowdero 09-13-2010 05:38 AM

i checked it out and got a great idea...

l shape box..heat wrapped..with a vinyl hose going to this mysterious vent i found next to the fog light..if it doesnt fit there..ill scrap the idea and start over i know theres a way to increase more cold air..
like i said under my hood its hotter then normal..cali sun has slammed down the car at 123 degrees
idk
just an idea, ill run a test on air flow at my mechanics shop and see if it changed a difference
thanks for the info

CanadianBak'inSupra 09-13-2010 12:50 PM

what i would do is drill a 4 inch hole right behind your right headlight. and send your w/e style filter under, you may need to drill a second hole to get into the bumper, but when finished your intake is in your bumper.

cre 09-14-2010 02:01 AM

You don't need to drill anything there's a hole already there which the stock air box breathes through. A 3" 90 degree pipe will put the filter out of the engine bay and right below the headlight. You'll need a cheap AFM adapter (can be had off eBay for around $10 including shipping), a couple silicone couplers, hose clamps, one piece of aluminum pipe with a 90 degree bend and possibly one straight piece, and a "universal" filter with a 3" opening. If you really want to go all out wrap the piping that's in the engine bay with heat wrap or get it ceramic coated.

CanadianBak'inSupra 09-14-2010 02:05 AM

not in my mk2...
gettin the 2 mixed up again...

cre 09-14-2010 02:34 AM

I figured that must be the case.... It's been soooo long since I've looked under the hood of one I can't remember at all how the intake is setup.

CanadianBak'inSupra 09-14-2010 03:19 AM

pretty much the same, but diff.. lol

off topic. there is a mk2 with a jdm 1jz tt for 3k near where i live... but im broke... i want it sooo bad.

Sonyps307 09-14-2010 03:28 AM

Pipe it down into the front bumper like a intercooler or a ram air I seen a pipe called a pre-intercooler pipe On http://www.siliconeintakes.com it had fins on it like a heat sink and lowered the temp. Alot just from one pipe

86.5 7MGE 09-16-2010 04:28 AM

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What I did was just use some after-market piping from a different car and fabricated my own it looks nice and Cre has seen my work; it's CAI and I have my cone filter behind my bumper with a shield on it to protect from direct splash or rain; now just have to fabricate a front diffuser to better protect it from puddles and find a piece of piping to fit in to replace my big sensor box.

ochowdero 09-16-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 86.5 7MGE (Post 87867)
What I did was just use some after-market piping from a different car and fabricated my own it looks nice and Cre has seen my work; it's CAI and I have my cone filter behind my bumper with a shield on it to protect from direct splash or rain; now just have to fabricate a front diffuser to better protect it from puddles and find a piece of piping to fit in to replace my big sensor box.

yeah im gonna start fabricating mine shortly
alot of other things on my mind hahha

Green7mgte 09-19-2010 05:30 PM

if its a turbo.. your gonna get all the air you need anyhow. I would concentrate on bigger injectors / intercooler and turbo.. but if not.
its not really going to make a difference besides looking cool.


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