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bryanf89 07-25-2010 03:00 AM

7m on life support
 
Heres my story, about a month ago i had to towed my car to a mechanic that i been going to for about two months, cool dude. My 89 supra's clutch master cylinder wanted to break on the night i was with a girl, great -__-. The next i towed my car. When i got it back, the mechanic, that i trustED, told me my engine needed a tune up. He fixed everything that needed to be fixed, but now my engine has problems?! He told me he took it home because he didnt want to take a chance of leaving it in that neighborhood and wanted to test out the cylinder. I told him that my engine was running good before i bought it here, not it has problems, what gives?! He told me that the engine needed a tune up that first he started it.

It turns out that sonofabitch blew my headgasket. It was worst than i thought, when i took off the head. He must of ran the engine so hard, that it overheated to the point that the block expanded! Theres a slight gap between the piston and wall, lost compression according to the gauge. I would take legal action, but i have no proof and its bad enough that i towed it over there. Smh, my trust issues have just escalated.

Now, no further digressing. The 7m is on life support and its doesnt seem cost effective to rebuild it. Im going 2jze twin turbo vvti from jdm imports shop in new jersey. My questions are this. Will i be able to use my aluminum driveshaft? I have an apexi power intake kit, can i salvage that also. I also have the blitz nur cat back exhaust, will that be able to stay. Im leaving this supra to the professionals at e shift performance.
Any advice will be helpful thanks.

btwilson86 07-25-2010 03:29 AM

If you're sticking with the same transmission, and it stays in the same spot (not sure if it would need to move or not to accommodate the different engine), then you *should* be able to use the driveshaft. I'm not sure on the intake though...

bryanf89 07-25-2010 03:52 AM

The 2j comes with the 6speed. I do have the r154. What about the exhaust?

907mge 07-25-2010 04:12 AM

From what I have heard the 6 speed is a very tight fit. So you might what to look into that.

btwilson86 07-25-2010 04:28 AM

Well, the shifter on the v160 is further back than it is on the r154, pretty sure the transmissions are different lengths as well which means no on the driveshaft. You could still use it if you got a 1jz bellhousing for that r154 though.

As for the exhaust, you can probably get that to work with either a custom dp for the 2jz or with an aftermarket dp and an adapter pipe to fit it to your current cat-back.

If you didn't want the project to be too labor intensive, I'd stick with the r154+your driveshaft and exhaust, buy an intake for the 2jz, and sell the v160 to pay for a good chunk of the swap. Last time I checked, those transmissions still went for a good amount of money

wstanek 07-25-2010 06:23 AM

if he took the car home without ur approval thenu can take legal action take it and fuck him up i woulda fucked him up gooooood!

bryanf89 07-25-2010 02:36 PM

@btwilson86. I was thinking of taking my ds to machine shop and letting them cut the output shaft to acommandate the length of the longer v160. You think its a good idea? Yeah the exhaust i could always weld on, but that would be my last resort, i dont like welds. I still wants to use my apexi air filter, i seen a thread on supraforums about air filters and the apexi came out on top

@wstanek, i didnt want to fuck him up, i wanted to burn his place down to the ground, so his crook ass would be a broke ass

cre 07-25-2010 05:21 PM

AFAIK, yes on the DS (with the R154, no with the V, with the V I believe you need a custom built DS); No on the exhaust; No on the Apexi (you'll need a different filter adapter and last I checked they weren't available individually); Fitting the V160 isn't easy, definitely not a straight drop in. There are a couple people on SM and SF who've done it with a good amount of time and custom work to get the shifter relocated... it's doable, but I don't know that I'd consider it worth the time... just one more shift to make and the gear ratios of 1 and 6 aren't much further apart IIRC.

Additionally, Unless there was already something massively wrong (coolant blockages, low oil, etc.) I doubt he managed to wreck everything in one joyride.

With the filter get a "universal" AEM DryFlow filter. Just as good as the Apexi (possibly better) and less expensive, then (if needed) just get a filter adapter off eBay.

bryanf89 07-25-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cre (Post 86159)
AFAIK, yes on the DS (with the R154, no with the V, with the V I believe you need a custom built DS); No on the exhaust; No on the Apexi (you'll need a different filter adapter and last I checked they weren't available individually); Fitting the V160 isn't easy, definitely not a straight drop in. There are a couple people on SM and SF who've done it with a good amount of time and custom work to get the shifter relocated... it's doable, but I don't know that I'd consider it worth the time... just one more shift to make and the gear ratios of 1 and 6 aren't much further apart IIRC.

Additionally, Unless there was already something massively wrong (coolant blockages, low oil, etc.) I doubt he managed to wreck everything in one joyride.

With the filter get a "universal" AEM DryFlow filter. Just as good as the Apexi (possibly better) and less expensive, then (if needed) just get a filter adapter off eBay.

My exhaust, i cant lose my exhaust i spend almost a gran for the complete setup, ill make it work lol. The place im taking it to does custom machine work, im sure they can come up with something to keep the apexi. Since its a twin turbo, does that mean it requires 2 filters.
Yeah you right, ill stick with tje r154 and keep the V as a spare. Can the r154 handle the engine? Yeah the engine would overheat on the highway and had other minor problemz before i took it to him, he just made it worst.

Green7mgte 07-26-2010 12:41 AM

man sounds like your throwing allot of money at this problem.

good luck with your garage.

bryanf89 07-26-2010 01:32 AM

I have no other choice green7m, its that or nothing. I work at the garage, so its no problem leaving stuff there. Since im going to be doing a swap instead of rebuilding, might as well go big.

Green7mgte 07-26-2010 11:29 AM

i heard the cost of putting a 2jz into an mk3 was about the cost of buying a 1jz and a 2jz engine combined. maybe I would just look for an mk4.
the 7m is a platform for allot of power, keep in mind.

there is also a guy here in the For sale section of the forum that has 1jz and 2jz front clips for sell. maybe look at his prices, probably work with you on the shipping and overall cost.

bryanf89 07-26-2010 03:24 PM

No way dude, maybe out there it is. I know the guys and since I could I pick it up myself, I'm getting a price of $2000 for the twin turbo vvti, clean with about 55,000miles imported.

bryanf89 07-26-2010 03:35 PM

I'll get the clips when I get the engine, let's take 1 step at a time lol

bryanf89 07-26-2010 10:43 PM

Going 2jz!
 
I decided to go 2j, the guys that I'm taking it too said they could get me a clean 2j for 1800. The cost of the swap and labor will be 900 and they throwing in a free Dyno tune. As always, I'll post pics &/or videos.

Green7mgte 07-27-2010 01:49 AM

cant really beat that with a stick. If you are taking it to someone who knows what their doing and not just your red neck local grease monkey but hell for that price Id supply the moonshine!:rofl2:

bryanf89 07-27-2010 05:26 AM

Lmao sounds like a plan.
Im taking to these guys http://www.e-shiftperformance.com/home.php

bryanf89 07-27-2010 02:54 PM

Woahhh
 
I take back everything i just said about the price, the 900 is for honda swaps lol. Im looking at 2500 and up

Sonyps307 07-28-2010 12:27 AM

There is a shop near me called JE imports he does great work but his is pricey I went to see him about rebuilding my 7mge and head worked he said 6,000$ for a ge rebuild. A 1jz swap from him was 10,000-12,000$ for everything

cre 07-28-2010 02:03 AM

Pricing is going to vary a LOT from one area to the next.. a quote like that out here means the mechanic is either hoping you'll just go the hell away OR if you do still bit he's making sure he'll have a bill with enough padding to take the wife out for dinner every night of the week for a month... ;)

bryanf89 07-28-2010 03:25 AM

Ugh
 
Cre is right, any good mechanic with a good rep will milk you for every dollar

bryanf89 07-28-2010 03:35 PM

Which would be more reliable, vvti or regular twin turbo?


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