debating weights

[faytmorgan]

I apologize for some reason I am not allowed to post a new thread in the general tech section and even to post in this section I had to reread the rules? I don’t know- I don’t post here much so... meh

Anyhow- I am debating something with my setup.

1. Has anyone stripped an 87 up supra mk3 turbo 5speed? If so what was the weight? I am trying to find out how much I can get a supra stripped down to within reason.

2. Why is it that people are swapping out the rear sub frame for an s14 sub frame? Aren’t the q45 diffs stronger? And also have an r200v? Plus stronger axles.... I don’t get it. Is it the suspension? Is it sooo limited on the supra?

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Right now I have a 1990 s13 coupe 5 speed base model. I finished the ka24de swap. I'm board. I want to know if I should continue with the s13 or sell it and get a supra more or less.

The type of racing I do is m2 class racing in rally cross. The car needs to be "streetable" so none of the Hoosier I have one line a tread tires. I get a deal on the re11 tires so that’s what I’m going to use (a set for 200 not 600!) I was planning on ripping out the ka24de for a sbc 383 stroked vortec motor carbed. Using the q45diff and axles a highly modded we t5 trans and a bunch of other things. Now I’m curious if the z can get as low a weight as the s13 with the v8. If so- then I may just go supra instead.


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I’m about 140 pounds
The car stock is 2606 pounds (wet weight)
The ka24de is 371 pounds (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/299879)
The ka24de trans is 169 pounds (can’t find the link hmm... she sure is heavy though)
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The sbc with alum intake/heads is about 525 pounds
The WC t5 trans weighs about 90 pounds (aluminum case )

So...
The sbc+trans = 615 lbs
The ka+trans = about 540 lbs

A difference of only 75 pounds oooo- big deal and the trans is pretty much in the center of the car. now I have read allot on what people have done to lighten up their s13 the lightest vie seen was 2179 lbs. cant find the link for that guy but he had an excel sheet for it I have it on my desk top.

So add about 100-200 lbs for a cage that’s 2379 lbs
Add 75 pounds for the v8 swap that’s 2454 lbs
And lastly me (140 lbs) that 2594 lbs

So let’s just say 2600 lbs to be safe. So now we are pretty much back to stock weight but with a HUGE hunk of v8 in the front. I haven’t really added the weight of the axles and new diff though... so this is a guestimate.

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So can I get the supra down to 2600 pounds or there about?

[kwnate]

Originally Posted by faytmorgan

2. Why is it that people are swapping out the rear sub frame for an s14 sub frame? Aren’t the q45 diffs stronger? And also have an r200v? Plus stronger axles.... I don’t get it. Is it the suspension? Is it sooo limited on the supra?

Never heard of someone swapping of the supra subframe