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Noisyferret · 06-24-2009, 08:42 PM

Well, once I finally get more info I will let you know. Hoping if I need any parts except the belt, I can find them locally :-/. I emailed the PO seeing if theres anything he can offer me as far as advice. A friend suggested the key or whatever being stripped from the crank/pulley because he once had a cressida do this. He also said he fixed it with jb-weld until he got the parts, so perhaps the PO did this as well except for the getting the parts thing? hah. Thanks for the help though. The car will HOPEFULLY be back here tonight. I really wish I had something more than an 88 Corolla at my disposal.. hah

mirage83 · 06-24-2009, 09:16 PM

A damaged keyway or missing key on the balancer can cause all sorts of problems, including this one (though it's pretty uncommon). Once you get into the problem let us know what you find.

Noisyferret · 06-25-2009, 04:36 AM

Went back to check the car out/pick it up tonight. The belt broke, but not like I expected. The teeth did in fact sheer off in sections. Some of them broke though, and the belt was starting to come apart, like teeth and outer section. Will have the car back up and running in a few days, real glad I don't have to hunt down any parts. This will also give me an excuse to put on the a/c belt and see how the a/c is for not being used for a year or two. It was completely serviced minus the compressor in 2005 at the dealer, but the compressor squealing when not in use is what caused the belt to be taken off. I however don't mind running it at all times in this 100 degree every day weather. This will give me an excuse to clean it up real nice while I wait on fixing it at least.

mirage83 · 06-25-2009, 11:25 AM

Your compressor shouldn't squeal, especially when it's not on and the magnetic clutch is disengaged. It's pulley should be free spinning unless power is going to the clutch, so it sounds like you may have a bad clutch on that compressor. Never had to replace one before, so I'm uncertain how much that'll run you.

Glad you found the trouble with your timing belt, hope it was just a case of age and wear.

Noisyferret · 06-25-2009, 06:53 PM

Yeah, it's clutch is going. I would just replace the compressor though since it's still using r-12 and I could upgrade it. Gonna see if it works first though.

GettaRobo · 06-25-2009, 06:56 PM

Just as a heads up... When you start to get into that A/C stuff, it gets quite expensive. I was told at the stealership that if there were to do a conversion to the newer refrigerant, it would cost me $700 CAD. Definitely not a cheap thing to do.

mirage83 · 06-25-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GettaRobo

Just as a heads up... When you start to get into that A/C stuff, it gets quite expensive. I was told at the stealership that if there were to do a conversion to the newer refrigerant, it would cost me $700 CAD. Definitely not a cheap thing to do.

You were about to get ripped my friend. No way it should cost that much for a straightforward conversion. Unless you had hardware that legitimately needed replacing they were going to charge you for replacing hardware that didn't really have to be replaced for that conversion.

New seals, new expansion valve, new receiver/dryer, new lines optional, and the necessary 134a and it's oil shouldn't be anywhere near what they were quoting you.

mirage83 · 06-25-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noisyferret

Yeah, it's clutch is going. I would just replace the compressor though since it's still using r-12 and I could upgrade it. Gonna see if it works first though.

I recommend getting one of the newer compressors for the Aristo or another Toyota which were designed from the beginning for using 134a. You'll have better luck with it in the long run.

Noisyferret · 06-26-2009, 12:39 AM

Well, all the a/c components minus the compressor were replaced in late 2005. Lines and all, it was evacced of r12 and filled to the brim with it. At the Toyota dealer(I have the receipt) they were charged 550 dollars. I figure I could even just replace the compressor after having it evacced, then replace fittings and use the kits they sell at the store. It says to change the compressor on the kits for best/good results. I could get a compressor for cheap hopefully.

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06-24-2009, 08:42 PM	#1
Noisyferret Stock Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida, Spring Hill Posts: 8	Well, once I finally get more info I will let you know. Hoping if I need any parts except the belt, I can find them locally :-/. I emailed the PO seeing if theres anything he can offer me as far as advice. A friend suggested the key or whatever being stripped from the crank/pulley because he once had a cressida do this. He also said he fixed it with jb-weld until he got the parts, so perhaps the PO did this as well except for the getting the parts thing? hah. Thanks for the help though. The car will HOPEFULLY be back here tonight. I really wish I had something more than an 88 Corolla at my disposal.. hah

06-24-2009, 09:16 PM	#2
mirage83 12psi boost Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 359	A damaged keyway or missing key on the balancer can cause all sorts of problems, including this one (though it's pretty uncommon). Once you get into the problem let us know what you find.

06-25-2009, 04:36 AM	#3
Noisyferret Stock Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida, Spring Hill Posts: 8	Went back to check the car out/pick it up tonight. The belt broke, but not like I expected. The teeth did in fact sheer off in sections. Some of them broke though, and the belt was starting to come apart, like teeth and outer section. Will have the car back up and running in a few days, real glad I don't have to hunt down any parts. This will also give me an excuse to put on the a/c belt and see how the a/c is for not being used for a year or two. It was completely serviced minus the compressor in 2005 at the dealer, but the compressor squealing when not in use is what caused the belt to be taken off. I however don't mind running it at all times in this 100 degree every day weather. This will give me an excuse to clean it up real nice while I wait on fixing it at least.

06-25-2009, 11:25 AM	#4
mirage83 12psi boost Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 359	Your compressor shouldn't squeal, especially when it's not on and the magnetic clutch is disengaged. It's pulley should be free spinning unless power is going to the clutch, so it sounds like you may have a bad clutch on that compressor. Never had to replace one before, so I'm uncertain how much that'll run you. Glad you found the trouble with your timing belt, hope it was just a case of age and wear.

06-25-2009, 06:53 PM	#5
Noisyferret Stock Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida, Spring Hill Posts: 8	Yeah, it's clutch is going. I would just replace the compressor though since it's still using r-12 and I could upgrade it. Gonna see if it works first though.

06-25-2009, 06:56 PM	#6
GettaRobo 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 65	Just as a heads up... When you start to get into that A/C stuff, it gets quite expensive. I was told at the stealership that if there were to do a conversion to the newer refrigerant, it would cost me $700 CAD. Definitely not a cheap thing to do.

06-26-2009, 12:39 AM	#9
Noisyferret Stock Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida, Spring Hill Posts: 8	Well, all the a/c components minus the compressor were replaced in late 2005. Lines and all, it was evacced of r12 and filled to the brim with it. At the Toyota dealer(I have the receipt) they were charged 550 dollars. I figure I could even just replace the compressor after having it evacced, then replace fittings and use the kits they sell at the store. It says to change the compressor on the kits for best/good results. I could get a compressor for cheap hopefully.