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mkiiisupra 01-18-2008 02:49 AM

INTAKES what to do....?
 
Well been researching alot looking around for intake for my vehicle...

What i read alot of is dont pay someone for a kit, do it youself but i cannot find any guidence on this.

From what i have read most of the filters are about the same as far as flow are concerned, so i think i wantd to go with AEMs dry flow filter, no oil means no dmg to my AFM which is always a good thing.

Other than that read alot that the filters drawing in air from the heat of the engine cuases a power loss and just simply keep cool air in can give 6hp gains. So anyone know of a way to contruct a heat sheild and pipe'n for the MKIII supra?

mkiiisupra 01-18-2008 05:26 AM

Good read on intakes
Dispelling the Myth about

mkiiisupra 01-18-2008 11:31 AM

Think i am going to buy the LIPP intake adapter for like 35 bucks and get a AEM Dry flow filter, that way i can keep the oil from messing up my AFM.

Perhaps i can figure out a way to fabricate the stock air box to keep the engine heat away from the intake.......

mkiiisupra 01-24-2008 04:28 AM

Well i orderd the AEM Dryflow filter 3' by 5' for 41 off of amazon with free shipping i also oderd the LIPP adaptor so once i get it ill takes some pictures and do a little review of how it all worked out

side note: ill receive my cooleze IC pipes soon after 4 months of waiting... also order'd the LIPP spark plug galley cover w/ o rings and a HKS SSQV

zambini 01-28-2008 07:07 PM

that intake read makes sense until the very end when it talks about convergent vs divergent intake shapes.. but i guess fluid dynamics are beyond my comprehension ahha.. call me an advocate of common sense!

supramacist 01-28-2008 08:08 PM

Don't mess with a box.
Just run that new filter down to the nose through the oval hole that already exists.

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 01:53 AM

ill try that. What pipes did you use to run it through?

supramacist 01-29-2008 02:23 AM

Everyone uses those damnable honda pipes.
Or lowes crap, lol.

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 02:45 AM

I sent an email to cooleeze telling him if he created a pipe for that purpose there would be plently of people that would buy, however i got no response back ;(

Person i would not put anything honda near my car. and i guess PVC pipes from lowes work, but not the route i wanted to go either hehe

Do you have a picture of your set up?

CyFi6 01-29-2008 05:35 AM

im pretty sure PCV plasitc lets off some kind of odor especially when heater (dont want whatever it is constantly going in your engine), go with ABS

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 05:42 AM

ABS? i will probably buy some aluminum pipe'n... I guess ill see how it works out w/ just connecting it straight to the AFM first.

I got a complete cermaic coated intake pipes, should help reduce some of the ambient bay heat, what other steps can i take? Was thinking of try'n some of that paint helps insulate on my Heat shld for the turbo. with that thing getting as hot as it does i imagine most of the heat is from that :eek3:

something like 2200 degrees, heard that if u run ur turbo hard slam on ur breaks and pop the hood u can actually see it glow lol.

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mkiiisupra (Post 54718)
ABS? i will probably buy some aluminum pipe'n... I guess ill see how it works out w/ just connecting it straight to the AFM first.

I got a complete cermaic coated intake pipes, should help reduce some of the ambient bay heat, what other steps can i take? Was thinking of try'n some of that paint helps insulate on my Heat shld for the turbo. with that thing getting as hot as it does i imagine most of the heat is from that :eek3:

something like 2200 degrees, heard that if u run ur turbo hard slam on ur breaks and pop the hood u can actually see it glow lol.

lol well yeah you can try that out spray some coat on it and see if it does anything, here is a link to some good products
Heat Protection

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 06:01 AM

do you know how well that high heat coating spray works? or what temperatures its rated too? I saw some stuff at advanced auto but it was only rated too 1200 degrees which i dont think is enough that close the the turbo....

Would go the thermal wrap route but it looks really bad lol, however may wrap the unseen parts with it....

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 06:07 AM

i cant tell you exactly because i havent tested it to see the temp drop under the engine.... what i did is spray the coat on the headers and wrapped it..... i did notice a big drop of temp under the hood

but if you want i have some links to some that go til 2000 degrees

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 06:11 AM

they are from Amazon.com they sell them cheaper then in stores i think
this is the wrap for the headers
Amazon.com: Thermo Tec 11002 Exhaust Insulating Wrap: Automotive

this one is for the coat spray can
Amazon.com: Thermo-Tec 12001: Exhaust Wrap Coating, High-Temperature, Black, 11 oz. Spray Can, Each: Home Improvement

these ones are the ones i got because you have a 7mgte engine i gave you that suprasport website
both are for up to 2000F

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 06:26 AM

Thanks for the links, will do that next, soon as my wife forgets about the recent 400$ i spent hehe

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mkiiisupra (Post 54734)
Thanks for the links, will do that next, soon as my wife forgets about the recent 400$ i spent hehe

lmao, women these days.......

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 08:42 AM

had my car for a year and prolly spent around 5k + so she has been pretty understanding...... :dance:

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 08:53 AM

have my car for 3 months now spend over 7k already on it..
when i got mine it was a piece of trash... the previous owner had a accident so that f*cked up the engine and chasis, the engine is done for now and currently working on the chasis
when i got the car the engine was only working on 5 cylinder and had a BHG which i didn kno of.. bastard

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 09:04 AM

http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...all-began.html

haha thats my sob story there :dance:

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:15 AM

wel atleast you could of driven your car for a while, i noticed that the engine had almost no power when i just drove it from the previous owner to my house.... deal was made no refunds so i was stuck there next time il make a investigation before buying a car that cheap with the owner saying it runs "perfect"

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 09:19 AM

Lots of pain i think come along with these things, people didnt take care of them, jimmy rig it to barely run then cash out >.<

Just glad i had no cosmetic/frame/rust damage.

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:24 AM

i think its just sad for ppl not taking care of theyre cars.... i love supras thats why i bought this one as a start im now looking for a '97 supra

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 09:25 AM

How did your weapon R intake work, any pictures?

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:29 AM

didn work at first cause of the heat of the headers.... we had drilled the intake close by the throttle body to see the temp of the air going in with a intake sensor, at that location you know the estimate of the temp(i think)... with the weapon r its made of aluminium so it conducts heat and the temp was up by almost 50 degrees.. thats y i went and got the coat and wrapped the headers and il take pics and send it to you when i can... with it installed did notice a slight faster response on the engine but dont know by how much because i used to have a chrome tube and had a so called small supercharger in it which made a huge difference when it was without it so now with the new intake without the supercharger its a dificult to know

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 09:36 AM

Going to hook up my AEM dryflow soon and cooleeze IC pipes.... going to see how much a diff it makes and if imma need to run the filter to a cooler spot or not.

Currently just have the drop in K&N she felt a lil quicker after that.. very minimal though

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:41 AM

the small supercharger is just a small fan that starts spinning when u start up the engine. when the engine is running at high rpm it makes the fan spin faster. when u let go of the gas the fan keeps spinning without losing the speed fast and when u press the gas it inmediatly gets air "pushed" in by the little fan which gives u a faster response, a little bit of hp increase and u get more mileage out of it... it just sits in the intake tube no wires or anything... the weapon r intake consists of another pipe in it that is why i cant use the lil thing

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:42 AM

get a heat shield for it maybe that will help or use a longer pipe to get it more up front further away from the engine

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 09:46 AM

this thing? http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...cL._AA280_.jpg

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mkiiisupra (Post 54758)

nope that just sits still.. the blades are a lil sideways which makes the air like spin around in the intake... by that the airflow doesn lose speed

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...qL._AA280_.jpg

i am talking about this thing....
only usable in N/A cars.... if you have a turbo then this wont help

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 10:25 AM

huh cool, anyone in good contact with cooleeze they need to make us a cold air intake set up, people will buy it ;)

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 11:12 AM

lol that would be a good idea if they can make one

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 11:15 AM

haha made a poll, i dont see whats stoping them, even if i have to cut a lil bit no big deal, just would like a professional looking CAI set up.... even a heat sheild to block off the heat from that section would be fine

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 11:16 AM

but the air already gets cooled off by the intercooler... ive seen some ppl that wrapped the intake pipe from the intercooler instead of the headers

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 11:18 AM

intercooler helps yea, but the colder the air going in the better.

the colder the air going in the more dense it is so it is able to pull in more.

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 11:21 AM

yeah that is true, maybe they should design a air to water cooled intake pipe that would be cool but dangerous if u get a crack and all that water goes into the engine :eek3:

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 11:22 AM

just as dangerous as a water cooled computer. if its installed and maintained properly increases the computer performance alot... if not...... well you have no more computer lol

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 11:23 AM

i dont think its so much the air in the pipes that needs to be cooled but the air around the intake.

SilenceboneSupra 01-29-2008 11:27 AM

well your not gna get alot of succes trying to cool the air around the intake, u need to make sure that the intake is not exposed to something realy hot but in this case it always is so u need to protect it from the heat

mkiiisupra 01-29-2008 11:28 AM

just dont know how to go about that ;( its right next to the radiator which isnt good


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