Official lightening the mk3 thread!!!!

j3pz · 06-08-2006, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isphius

the mk3 does not have struts

huh? arent struts and shocks the same? if not someone enlighten me

Isphius · 06-11-2006, 12:53 AM

shocks just resist the movement of the suspension, and give the spring a place to act, in the mk3 anyway. A strut is actually a structural piece of the suspension. It takes the place of the upper a arm and shock/spring. Which is why strut bars and camber plates are useless on supras. Camber plates are for whne you lower a front wheel drive car, it moves the struts out, so the camber isnt so far in. And stut tower braces stop the struts from moving closer and away from each other, which also doesnt happen on a supra, because it has shocks. Mk3 btw, not too sure if mk4 is struts or shocks

Isphius · 06-11-2006, 01:00 AM

BTW, Someone should make a "Lightening your Supra" sticky, because it seems to be something a lot of people want to do.

joel w · 06-11-2006, 01:14 AM

A lot of people try and lighten the car up, but it will always be a heavy car... imo..

I upgraded the turbo and added supporting mods which added weight, but now makes more power, so it just seems the car is lighter..

To add to this thread now, My favorite answer is to take out the spare tire and replace it with a AAA card..

Isphius · 06-19-2006, 04:52 AM

AAA is really good actually. My friend got a flat tire at school and they were there and had it changed in under an hour. Im gona fab up some subframe connectors before i do anything else to the car just to see if they work good. And next is welding the entire inside of the car up. Its a targa...so it needs the stiffness.

joel w · 06-19-2006, 06:23 AM

Isphius: Look at MDCMotorsporsts site, Jon has some sweet cages that will stiffen flex.

If I was going to drag race at all, I would leave the MK3 supra in the driveway and pick up a MK2 chassis and install a 7mgte for an instant 800lbs in weight reduction from a MK3 platform.

theWeezL · 06-19-2006, 07:00 AM

hey for you Targa guys looking for a way to reduce flex, Im now working on a targa brace that will be available soon. I should have my prototype by the end of this week.

I'll keep ya all informed when I have more info

Monkey · 12-22-2006, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joel w

Isphius: Look at MDCMotorsporsts site, Jon has some sweet cages that will stiffen flex.

If I was going to drag race at all, I would leave the MK3 supra in the driveway and pick up a MK2 chassis and install a 7mgte for an instant 800lbs in weight reduction from a MK3 platform.

A guy out of Canada has a web site for that. I used to have it saved in my favorites, somewhere. He has or had an 82 Supra with a 7MGTE dropped in it. He said, "One word. ROCKET." I think you might find it on SOGIC. Supra Owners Group In Canada. He even made a complete harness to drop the 7MGTE in with no problems. It'll cost you a little bit, though. I had an 85, and i was SERIOUSLY thinking of doing this before i moved from PA to MS. I had no way to bring the car with me, so sadly, i junked it. I know, blasphemy.

no more fart cans! · 10-13-2008, 05:38 AM

The MK3 supra has McPherson struts in all four corners. and on the topic of sub frame connectors, you really have nothing to connect them to. if you want to eliminate flex then you need larger sway bars, a 6 point cage, and ACTUAL strut braces. That cheap crap you see in magazines and movies does nothing. Actual strut braces must be triangulated and have gussets placed on the bends for structural support. welding seams works as well and realistically for any other cars that you do put sub frame connectors on, remember one thing, bolt on sub frame connectors are absolutely useless. all the tension is applied to the bolts. If you want to modify a chassis the only way to go is welding and fabrication.

Dis_traction7m · 11-14-2008, 09:08 AM

I've removed quite alot of weight from my supra (even my rear window screen wiper and motor) i'm hoping it will pass a WOf without it.. Also removed sound deadener rear seats and carpet. Removed plastic from inside roof tyre and rear panels. have yet to see how much it has changed the handling or performance of my car as it is in the shop getting a turbo rebuild. 'm wanting someone to do a 1/4 mile time before and after weight reduction to see how much performance is actually gained from doing this.. i've been told by my girlfriend and everyone elce that it will do nothing but i want to prove they are wrong for once so please anyone out there who has gained an increese in acceleration and handeling from weight reduction with time slips please show

06-11-2006, 12:53 AM	#2
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	shocks just resist the movement of the suspension, and give the spring a place to act, in the mk3 anyway. A strut is actually a structural piece of the suspension. It takes the place of the upper a arm and shock/spring. Which is why strut bars and camber plates are useless on supras. Camber plates are for whne you lower a front wheel drive car, it moves the struts out, so the camber isnt so far in. And stut tower braces stop the struts from moving closer and away from each other, which also doesnt happen on a supra, because it has shocks. Mk3 btw, not too sure if mk4 is struts or shocks __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!! Last edited by Isphius; 06-11-2006 at 12:57 AM.

06-11-2006, 01:00 AM	#3
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	BTW, Someone should make a "Lightening your Supra" sticky, because it seems to be something a lot of people want to do. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

06-19-2006, 04:52 AM	#5
Isphius 500whp yet? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long branch, NJ Posts: 1,006	AAA is really good actually. My friend got a flat tire at school and they were there and had it changed in under an hour. Im gona fab up some subframe connectors before i do anything else to the car just to see if they work good. And next is welding the entire inside of the car up. Its a targa...so it needs the stiffness. __________________ Yay the supra assistant is gone!!! WEEE!!

06-19-2006, 07:00 AM	#7
theWeezL 12psi boost Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 376	hey for you Targa guys looking for a way to reduce flex, Im now working on a targa brace that will be available soon. I should have my prototype by the end of this week. I'll keep ya all informed when I have more info __________________ *____________* *Eagles may soar, but weezl's never get sucked into jet engines!* Last edited by theWeezL; 06-19-2006 at 05:09 PM.

10-13-2008, 05:38 AM	#9
no more fart cans! Stock Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CO Posts: 1	what??? The MK3 supra has McPherson struts in all four corners. and on the topic of sub frame connectors, you really have nothing to connect them to. if you want to eliminate flex then you need larger sway bars, a 6 point cage, and ACTUAL strut braces. That cheap crap you see in magazines and movies does nothing. Actual strut braces must be triangulated and have gussets placed on the bends for structural support. welding seams works as well and realistically for any other cars that you do put sub frame connectors on, remember one thing, bolt on sub frame connectors are absolutely useless. all the tension is applied to the bolts. If you want to modify a chassis the only way to go is welding and fabrication.

06-11-2006, 01:14 AM	#4
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	A lot of people try and lighten the car up, but it will always be a heavy car... imo.. I upgraded the turbo and added supporting mods which added weight, but now makes more power, so it just seems the car is lighter.. To add to this thread now, My favorite answer is to take out the spare tire and replace it with a AAA card..

06-19-2006, 06:23 AM	#6
joel w Lexus & 550's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 506	Isphius: Look at MDCMotorsporsts site, Jon has some sweet cages that will stiffen flex. If I was going to drag race at all, I would leave the MK3 supra in the driveway and pick up a MK2 chassis and install a 7mgte for an instant 800lbs in weight reduction from a MK3 platform.

11-14-2008, 09:08 AM	#10
Dis_traction7m Stock Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1	I've removed quite alot of weight from my supra (even my rear window screen wiper and motor) i'm hoping it will pass a WOf without it.. Also removed sound deadener rear seats and carpet. Removed plastic from inside roof tyre and rear panels. have yet to see how much it has changed the handling or performance of my car as it is in the shop getting a turbo rebuild. 'm wanting someone to do a 1/4 mile time before and after weight reduction to see how much performance is actually gained from doing this.. i've been told by my girlfriend and everyone elce that it will do nothing but i want to prove they are wrong for once so please anyone out there who has gained an increese in acceleration and handeling from weight reduction with time slips please show __________________ 1989 MKlll Toyota Supra 7M - GTE

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