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Dillon 08-21-2006 02:15 PM

drift car
 
what do you think is the ideal car for drifting???

Ahmad88 08-22-2006 01:06 AM

Supra.240SX,180sx,silvia,skyline,AE86,RX-7,RX-8,corvette,impalaSS(prefer 96),pretty much almost any rear wheel drive car, just watch a few drift videos and shows and look at the cars they use.

supra90turbo 08-22-2006 04:21 PM

anything rwd can drift. it's all in the setup, and mostly driver.

ravenmaster 08-22-2006 05:06 PM

for refence the 180SX and 240SX are the SAME EXACT CAR. Anyway when I had a 240SX (89 with SR20DET drop) I found it t be one of the best cars ever for drifting. i drift in my supra (only a few times i try to keep my supra in tip top shape.) but it seems a little mroe difficult maybe becuase of the extra poundage.

Supra2NR 08-22-2006 09:00 PM

nissan s15 sylvia
the best drift car ever

burton51m 08-23-2006 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra2NR
nissan s15 sylvia
the best drift car ever

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thats my opinion too
all those crazy japs use those sylvias over there

240sx is close behind

supra90turbo 08-23-2006 12:59 PM

uh, it's Silvia.
and Silvia = 240sx

burton51m 08-23-2006 08:56 PM

true,

the silvia is japans market version of the 240sx

but they're still different cars.

Ahmad88 08-24-2006 02:23 PM

silvia looks better then 240 i love the style of it.

RMTC 08-24-2006 05:23 PM

AE86 and mazda miata for the acutal handling but they are both under powered. the 90 body style 240sx with a SR swap is probably the best for the money and makes enough power to continue to stay competitive once you get better. I would try to avoid the S15 model because their transmissions are weaker. the trans is the same size as the one that i have but they shoved a 6th gear into it.

Ahmad88 08-24-2006 06:22 PM

do a tranny swap thats all u gotta do

Supra2NR 08-31-2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

uh, it's Silvia.
and Silvia = 240sx
still not the same car

thats like saying
the supra = celica
it came from the celica but its two diffrent cars now

Ahmad88 08-31-2006 02:16 PM

the silvia is different from the 240 it may be based on it but it looks better and etc.

supra90turbo 09-04-2006 03:31 PM

same car.
S13 240sx = RPS13 180sx
S14 240sx = S14 Silvia

The only difference is the driveline.

They're the same car. Same chassis codes.

burton51m 09-05-2006 07:38 PM

no bud


just cuz the cars have the same chassis doesnt mean its the same car


if you have a 240sx and you tell people you have a silvia theyre gonna look at you like your an idiot.


i dont care what you say at this point but theyre different cars in my book.

Luvs2slide 09-06-2006 12:11 AM

Man are you serious? Maybe if you tried to do some research you would find out for yourself. In the US they are called the 240 SX. All the way from 89-98. In Japan they are known as Silvias...with different versions and diferent motors, respectively. Check it...

89-98 in US is 240sx because of the motor (KA24de). i'm pretty sure that the 89-90 came w/ the SOHC engine (pignose).

In Japan, the 89-94 had many models.
-RPS13 (Hatchback with both Redtop and Blacktop SR20DET turbo's)
-180SX Type X ( Hatchback w/ 1.8 Liter motor, ca18DET turbo)
-PS13 Has different headlights than US coupes ( coupe version some came with SR20DET also) which also have Zenki and Kouki Versions
- Sil80. Has a PS13 front end with a Hatchback rear end.

The non-turbo models came with SR20DE's. Same motor found in newer SE-R's.

Then you also have the 95-98 models aka S14 which came w/ blacktop SR20DET's. Also have the Zenkis and Kouki.

Then you have the 99-01 which are known as the S15. Blacktop motors and slighter upgrades than the previous model.

They all share the same chasis. That is why people can do different front end conversions and what not.

ravenmaster 09-06-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luvs2slide
Man are you serious? Maybe if you tried to do some research you would find out for yourself. In the US they are called the 240 SX. All the way from 89-98. In Japan they are known as Silvias...with different versions and diferent motors, respectively. Check it...

89-98 in US is 240sx because of the motor (KA24de). i'm pretty sure that the 89-90 came w/ the SOHC engine (pignose).

In Japan, the 89-94 had many models.
-RPS13 (Hatchback with both Redtop and Blacktop SR20DET turbo's)
-180SX Type X ( Hatchback w/ 1.8 Liter motor, ca18DET turbo)
-PS13 Has different headlights than US coupes ( coupe version some came with SR20DET also) which also have Zenki and Kouki Versions
- Sil80. Has a PS13 front end with a Hatchback rear end.

The non-turbo models came with SR20DE's. Same motor found in newer SE-R's.

Then you also have the 95-98 models aka S14 which came w/ blacktop SR20DET's. Also have the Zenkis and Kouki.

Then you have the 99-01 which are known as the S15. Blacktop motors and slighter upgrades than the previous model.

They all share the same chasis. That is why people can do different front end conversions and what not.

Actually 89-90 came limited with the DOHC (Dual Over Head Cam) you see those on the 240's that have two exhuasts nozzles coming out of the tailpipe instead of one on the stock pipe. They also came extremely limited in with the Super HICA(look it up cuz I won't explain it) which is what I had(and still have its sitting in my garage with the frront end cutt off, still need to get around to working on that). Hope that clears some things.

burton51m 09-07-2006 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luvs2slide
Man are you serious? Maybe if you tried to do some research you would find out for yourself. In the US they are called the 240 SX. All the way from 89-98. In Japan they are known as Silvias...with different versions and diferent motors, respectively. Check it...

89-98 in US is 240sx because of the motor (KA24de). i'm pretty sure that the 89-90 came w/ the SOHC engine (pignose).

In Japan, the 89-94 had many models.
-RPS13 (Hatchback with both Redtop and Blacktop SR20DET turbo's)
-180SX Type X ( Hatchback w/ 1.8 Liter motor, ca18DET turbo)
-PS13 Has different headlights than US coupes ( coupe version some came with SR20DET also) which also have Zenki and Kouki Versions
- Sil80. Has a PS13 front end with a Hatchback rear end.

The non-turbo models came with SR20DE's. Same motor found in newer SE-R's.

Then you also have the 95-98 models aka S14 which came w/ blacktop SR20DET's. Also have the Zenkis and Kouki.

Then you have the 99-01 which are known as the S15. Blacktop motors and slighter upgrades than the previous model.

They all share the same chasis. That is why people can do different front end conversions and what not.


im not an expert on 240sx history but this flew right over my head.

what are you exactly trying to say?
im being serious not a smart ass...



it kindof doesnt make sense when you copy and paste from the internet,,,you gotsta splain it to us dumb people

Supra2NR 09-07-2006 06:21 AM

what happend to supras drifting here

this is one main reason this a supra forum
(we talk about supras, difrences and likeness alike)
(not 240's)

lets get back to our beloved supras

but did you guys know that the s15 wieghs about the same as our car
my friend jus got one from cali he says it weighs about 3400 lbs
now wont this be an intresting contest

Ahmad88 09-08-2006 05:52 PM

lol u hippacrit u say this is a supra forum and we should only talk about supras then u talk about the weight of a S15 lol, j/k i like the S15s also, love the body style and stance.

thechori 09-25-2006 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burton51m
im not an expert on 240sx history but this flew right over my head.

what are you exactly trying to say?
im being serious not a smart ass...



it kindof doesnt make sense when you copy and paste from the internet,,,you gotsta splain it to us dumb people

he basically told you the specific differences in the 240sx (U.S.) and the Silvia (japan), the silvias have the SR20DE/T's and the 240sxs have the KA24DE's, which are two totally different engines

basically
: Japan > U.S.

Supra2NR 09-26-2006 04:37 AM

Quote:

lol u hippacrit u say this is a supra forum and we should only talk about supras then u talk about the weight of a S15 lol, j/k i like the S15s also, love the body style and stance.
look at this part
Quote:

but did you guys know that the s15 wieghs about the same as our car
my friend jus got one from cali he says it weighs about 3400 lbs
now wont this be an intresting contest
doyyyy..:dunno: lol jk
its about our supras racing one
i jus like to share what i know, jus in case one of our pple comes to a situation where they have to race a s15

Ahmad88 09-26-2006 02:18 PM

suck my chocolate salty balls!:bouncy:

Supra2NR 09-27-2006 05:45 AM

thats nasty dude
get this then

ikaw and chumupa ng tite ko

Ahmad88 09-28-2006 06:07 PM

i heard that before frogot wut it meant

Supra2NR 10-01-2006 05:06 AM

you'll figure it out sooner or later
i guarantee you you'll go, " huh, damn!"
when you do lol lol

JimmyH 01-01-2007 02:48 PM

Hi guys~

here is a clip of a MKIV drifting that we recorded a while back. This owner is my personal friend and I am responsible for building this car and providing all the necessary information when my customer needs. I hope you all enjoy it. Supra rocks~
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...40137568313748

Sonic 10-28-2007 08:48 AM

well heres a mkIII in south africa drifting , all that was changed on this car is the D2 shocks and stearing angle was inproved. check out this clip and rate it if you like :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A3N-6tPVmY

supramacist 05-08-2008 09:11 PM

Could those of you that know start a how to, thread.

For those of us that are interested in drifting and are interested in learning how?

Or just for those whom are curious or have questions?

I have some and I don't want to scrap my noise figuring out "how to".

XxSupra-MunkyxX 07-22-2008 11:09 PM

i think the best one of all is the silvia's but the one i would love to see drift would be an 89' Mazda Rx7 Savanna. Those thinks are sick! My mkiii will do good as well.:dance:

supraman911 05-03-2009 10:34 PM

RX-7 (Gen 3) Was born to drift and RX-7s brother is the Supra.

SC Rydah 05-19-2009 04:28 AM

The 240sx(USDM), or Silvia(JDM) or S-Chassis (both have same chassis - hence the name S13, S14, S15) are the best drift cars. That's why most drift cars you see are S-Chassis. That's why they're the most popular car among tuners and enthusiasts in Japan.

yuuki32 07-15-2009 11:17 AM

The 180 and 240 are the same except that the 180 is always going to be RHD because they were JDM only, and the powerplant for the 180 was an SR20 instead of the KA24. The silvia also shares the same S13 chassi but it is a coupe unlike the 180 and 240. the only difference for the JDM models is the body styling the underlaying platform is the same. The reason why they are so poplular in japan is that they are very cheap and there are hundreds of them laying in junk yards to get parts off of because the SR is not a motor that will last long without good care taken on maintanace.

87mk111 01-21-2010 06:11 PM

actually the 180sx had the ca18det 1.8l turbo 4cyl, still a better motor than the ka24e tho.

MarkLinRacing 03-06-2010 09:23 PM

RSX is best drift car!

I fail. :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrP3yBR8lak

87mk111 04-08-2010 07:02 AM

in my opion, anything back wheel drive is a good drifter, but Rx7, S13/14/15, 350z, 370z, Supra, Soarer, and AE86 are pretty good at it.

slideways-2jz 05-28-2010 02:19 AM

its true, anything RWD can drift with the proper suspension and driver skill. the best for money reasons and for beginers are s-chassis nissans or AE86's. you can drift mk3's but they have a worse suspesion design in comparison to s-chassis.

ok let me clairify everyones fail of trying to explain s-chassis
S13's:
89-90 USDM 240sx had a KA24e, a single cam 2.4l
91-94 udsm 240sx had a KA24DE, a dual cam 2.4l
89-94 JDM silvia's had a SR20de-t(coupe style body)(205hp)
89-90 JDM 180sx had a CA18de-t(hatch style body)
91-98 jdm 180sx had a SR20de-t

S14's:
95-98 USDM 240sx had a KA24DE(dual cam)
95-98 JDM silvia had a newer version of the SR20de-t(had 215hp)

S15's:
only sold in japan came with the best version of the SR20de-t(250hp)

there were HICAS editon s13's which came with a VLSD and all-wheels streering.
any questions?....

:dunno:

turbonicsperformance 06-08-2010 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 87mk111 (Post 77682)
actually the 180sx had the ca18det 1.8l turbo 4cyl, still a better motor than the ka24e tho.

i love the ka its an awesome platform that makes power like nobodies business
sr20det stock 6-8psi roughly 200hp
ka24de stock with turbo 6-8psi roughly 270-280 WHP
building one right now going full forged with a 50trim should make about 500 whp and hes still gonna have less than the cost of an sr swap into his car even paying labor :bouncy:

slideways-2jz 06-09-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullthrottlesrqsupra (Post 84160)
i love the ka its an awesome platform that makes power like nobodies business
sr20det stock 6-8psi roughly 200hp
ka24de stock with turbo 6-8psi roughly 270-280 WHP
building one right now going full forged with a 50trim should make about 500 whp and hes still gonna have less than the cost of an sr swap into his car even paying labor :bouncy:

Yes the KA is a good platform, and it CAN make alot of power but not without alot of things adressed. An sr make 205 crank HP not WHEEL hp. At 7 psi, a stock KA at 7 psi will make around 230-250 hp with upgraded fuel pump, injectors, arp head studs, multi-layer head gasket, and a decent tune. If your aiming for 500 hp on a KA it will have to be very well prepared an you will be spending much more than it would cost than a SR swap, but it would be worth the extra money! Lol just my 2 cents, having owned 6 240sx's, all KA, 2 were KA-T. And i'm in the process of building a nasty KA-T w/ holset hx-35 turbo :)

turbonicsperformance 06-14-2010 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slideways-2jz (Post 84205)
Yes the KA is a good platform, and it CAN make alot of power but not without alot of things adressed. An sr make 205 crank HP not WHEEL hp. At 7 psi, a stock KA at 7 psi will make around 230-250 hp with upgraded fuel pump, injectors, arp head studs, multi-layer head gasket, and a decent tune. If your aiming for 500 hp on a KA it will have to be very well prepared an you will be spending much more than it would cost than a SR swap, but it would be worth the extra money! Lol just my 2 cents, having owned 6 240sx's, all KA, 2 were KA-T. And i'm in the process of building a nasty KA-T w/ holset hx-35 turbo :)

we had a kid come in he had a turbo kit off ebay some injectors and a safc2 he made 230whp stock headbolts gasket bottom end everything with 100k on it and a volvo turbo off an old wagon lol it was a haggard mess but youcant deny power like that


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