That camaro vs supra video we saw, and knew there was something wrong, well what the person who posted it forgot to let us know is it was a alchohol burning drag car. Gee wonder why it was so fast.

LOL

v8's here are too scared to race us :P

they either attempt the... "jappa crap" comment or "import piece of ****" or similar...

only coz they know if we raced we'd whip their ass! hahaaaa

there are some really quick old v8's and old skool drag cars about that go really hard... but the ones you generally find on the street and mouth off... they just have nothing better to do

alchohol burning car? does it run on vodka? lol. i have this redneck (REALLY RED! even his eybrows are red) keep on talking trash (even technical trash) about how import cars has no chance against a 69 camaro. could u guys give me something to tell him (also technical) so i could make him cry to that dumb daddy that told him this trash?

Tell di red neck mon, to be watchin' di FF2 movie, mon. Fast-n-Furious 2. Di seen where Paul, he win di 2 American cars in di draggin' race, mon.

i didn't know you were jaimacan, don't even know if i spelt it right.

Horsepower is Horsepower, My chevelle will be able to smoke my supra at the strip, not on the skid pad though. Doesn't matter how you get there, although its a lot easier with v8s. There is no replacement for displacement. Don't even respond to people coming in here to push your buttons. Don't give em the satisfaction. If they cant back up their talk at the strip than its just BS, but you can't go around saying LS1's are crap, they're unreal!!! Don't forget I love Supras, just need to except the fact that other cars are faster than yours... doesn't matter how much his costs, it matters who wins... Did I mention that I love Supras!!

Lets go kwnate
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lol... ur funny. if you spent as much time and money into your chevelle, you'd realize that the supra can actually be faster. how would i know?? i sell performance parts for domestics, pretty dam cheap to. i get everything from eagle, lunati, mr gasket to the no name brands like engine works and bullet. as for the ls1, its barely coming to get its own and its already getting scrapped for the ls7, 6.0liter. the amount of energy and effort needed for a decent v8 to make power effiencently is greater than a straight 6 turbo. dont confuse "easier" with torque.

Dont ever tell a redneck the reason rice cars are better then domestics is because you saw it in initial d! and/or fast and the furious 2!.

just a fact... :blink:

dont know what initial d is and i work for a domestic performance parts shop. dont open your mouth if you dont know what your talkin about. i've owned domestics and imports. 1 porsche that i really cant count though, as an exotic.

listen, i love supras as much as all of you, but i know alot about cars across the board, and by the sound of that comaro and the way it launched an ran, and how it looked, somoen knew what they were doing, and that is at least a low 10's comaro, maybe in the 9's or faster. i have spent my whole life at the strips watching cars run, and that supra didnt stand a chance no matter who was driving it, trust me.

do you even know what it takes to get 10s? much less 9s?? i havent seen the vid in a while and i do believe in a good launch. other supra sites have many vid clips eating chevys from which is no suprize. in another f-body forum i go to(for selling parts) praise the supra. they like em since they can give them a run for thier money.

p.s. sound has NOTHING to do with power.

the only thing you can get from sound is 3 things

1) upgraded exhaust
2) turbo or supercharger
3) nitrous (though it only really comes up when there is a lot of it)

My bro has an F-body, and so do a few of my friends, there are generally 2 camps on supras, they either think they're dyno queens and not really good at racing, or they think it's up their with their cars, like Z cars and RX-7's.

Horsepower only matters near the end of the strip and on 60mph punches. Torque is what's needed, and V8's have us on that generally. The reason I like Turbo cars is that you can control the boost and fuel with a computer, run CRAP gas if you know what you're doing with the computers, and get great gas mileage, then dump race gas in, tune it up to the max, and fry anyone that comes your way. If you build a monster engine that isn't turboed you can't do this.

Anyways, it's power to weight ratio that really matters int he end, and we all know our supras are considered pigs in that regard becuase of their weight. My bro's F-body is made SOOOOOO cheap compared to mine, where I have a high quality interor, his is spartan, ect...

In the end...who cares, let's all go roast some hondas :lol:

hoah! to roasting hondas! haha.

now, your telling me by the sound, especially of old muscle, you cant tell anything? have you ever seen a drag strip? your nuts man. i have been racing or watching drags since i was born. i can just about guess the HP or engine size by listening to an engine run. look at the car, look at the tires, look at the cars stance, look at how well he launched....the point im making is the person driving knows what they are doing, and seeing this we an inferr that it was built by someone knowing what they were doing. that is a very well built street car and it ran like a top. also, that wasnt your normal small black, that was in the 396-454 range, so that means even MORE power. oh and yes, i do know what it takes to run nines, my cuda runs an 8.40 avg. :D

there is no way in hell you can see how much hp a car has by listening to it, no matter how old you are. you would be a dodge fanatic to say you could.
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2. sbc's i sell, few bbc not in the pic.
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3. just because its loud doesnt mean its powerful. ive seen idiot domestics have bad cam, gear, carb and stall combinations but be loud as hell.
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any pics of the almighty cuda and its ever so powerful motor?? i know dodge is capable with thier big blocks, i had my heart set on a 72 challenger w/440 six pack. it was beautiful, but my cousin was a greedy weasle

now, your telling me by the sound, especially of old muscle, you cant tell anything? have you ever seen a drag strip? your nuts man. i have been racing or watching drags since i was born. i can just about guess the HP or engine size by listening to an engine run. look at the car, look at the tires, look at the cars stance, look at how well he launched....the point im making is the person driving knows what they are doing, and seeing this we an inferr that it was built by someone knowing what they were doing. that is a very well built street car and it ran like a top. also, that wasnt your normal small black, that was in the 396-454 range, so that means even MORE power. oh and yes, i do know what it takes to run nines, my cuda runs an 8.40 avg. :D [/quote]
Monkihead....I know you like to point out frauds, but your wasting your time here. This guy just wants to start a war...First off I don't believe that you run an 8.40 avg with your cuda because the power it would have to have to run that would be nearly impossible to grip your tires and avg that if you had said 9.4 or 10.1...something in that range it might have been believable...My 87 turbo and i have never run an offcial 1/4 time (though i'd love to) my most generous guess would be 11.5....at absolute best and mind you i have the money, time, and reasources to work on my car when i want and my dream is to break that 10 second mark...
I would like to agree with Monkihead on the fact that you can't tell a damn thing about a car from its sound, except maybe that the muffler is wrecked....maybe if you look at the car you can get a gauge for how large the engine is.....but not the HP...HP doesn't make noise...i'm sure you can guess at it all day long, but that doesn't mean with any degree of accuracy....
Hell i've spanked the hell out soooo many muscle cars....Wisconsin people love their American Muscle and i get a lot of crap for my "Premium Ricer" the way i handle it is by spanking their cars....Oh yeah and i have been to my fair share of drag races....and the things you listed aren't gonne tell you a whole lot about the car....so i propose that you either start making logical, defendable points or put away your "gun"

haha, poor young grasshoppers. go spend some time at the track. the point is, wether you believe me or not, (i could give a sheot less) that the car is built, using all available senses you can use in a video, one must inferr that it is a increadibly well built. ill post cude pics when i figure out hw and have some time.. and yes it runs an 840 agv with a 502 and twin 4's. but if you dont believe me i really dont car. oh and im not starting a war, just making a point that no matter how much you all love supras (and i do to) there not unbeatable. there not supercars, there just quick street cars, very easy to build a faster than a supra kinda car.

oh and my old mans altered runs 7.30's

Yeah, but come on people, you're comparing apples to oranges. The Supra is made to take winding mountain roads in Japan, not straight line bombing runs (though it does that well too). We have a fully independant rear suspension for that reason. Like Corvettes, we're not drag cars, we're made to handle, though we can drag race quite well, we won't beat a tubbed monster...

exactly. well said.

right. sure. whatever you say. the supra uses less effort to create the same amount of power your cuda will ever make. so far as them being drag runners, ya'll are both wrong. they can be setup to make 7, 8 & 9 second runs. the only difference is that the supra can still be STREETABLE, the domestic cant be. ;)

its all good though, i realize your just afraid. its okay to be scared of something that can be faster. it will be okay..


oh, yeah, if its your old man and ur a guy, that means ur gay. which also makes sense.

He is not even worth arguing with because he obviously hasn't spent enough time with Supras...because if he had, he would know that many Supras will hang with his 8.4 cuda...and some will beat him senseless....But regardless he believes American muscle to be the best or "there is no replacement for displacement"...and i say yeah there is and its called technology....Race smart like us supra drivers do....thats what i say

and people wonder why the first thread was locked :rolleyes: if this is going to continue to be a mud slinging excersise, this thread will be locked. supra owners, he is obviously trying to get a bite out of you guys, and it's working, supras were not built as dragcars, they do it, and are efficient at it, but there are limits to it where technology does come to a point and you do need sheer size to continue. 3litres is not a hell of a lot compared to the big blocks that they run in dedicated drag cars. let him have the drags, and just blow his doors off on the street. acousticrawk, you have made some valid points in the posts you have made, nothing beats experience, how ever, sub 9's is starting to get into non streetable territory, and most of the cars on this forum are still street and daily driven.

end of the day, slips, or it didn't happen. that goes for everyone. now kids, play nice, or i'll take away your toys :ph34r:

im not picking sides of the supra or the camaro, do you guys pay attention? im saying by the video, that supra didnt stand a chance even if mario andretti (sp?) was driving it. if your sup will run with my cuda, come on to kil-kare dragway here in ohio, and ill put the headlights is so itll be streeable too, just for you. haha. my old man being my pop BTW. i never said there is no replacement for displacement....my cuda would blow on the highway at 140+150 mobbing in and out of cars. in a straight line, i will drag any street legal supra any day, and %99.9 of the time, i will win, and if i losse, its proally because something broke. oh, and i havnt been around supras long enough? i worked for toyota until i left for college, nice try, cincinnati branch and service for Voss Toyota. ill bet my boys all TRD modded solara would eat about any supra you all own thats street legal. Much love people. keep trying, maybe someday you can all run with the big boys.

:ph34r: RANDOM NINJA FACE!

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you lot really gotta learn :P

we can only speculate with that vid.... maybe if we find the owners they could give their reasoning for whatever happened

but since we're a supra forum...... the supra just screwed up his launch and would've won!!! speaking positively for the supras ;) LOL

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