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jpham8 06-07-2007 04:58 PM

Nitrogen In Tires...good Or Bad?
 
The last time I went to have my tires re-placed, they talked me into having my tires filled with nitrogen is this good or bad...they essentially told me that the life of the tire will last longer. Is this true?

dcrusupra 06-07-2007 09:52 PM

I had it in my tires. I didn't notice a difference. Air is 70% nitrogen anyway. It does however keep the tires cooler. I got it for free so it was worth a try.

dgl94456 06-08-2007 03:16 AM

nitrogen in tires
 
nitrogen in tires is GOOD because nitrogen is an inert gas and therefore will not react in any way with tire material. And, because it is inert, it does not expand and contract with temperature or atmospheric pressure changes, which is why aircraft tires are inflated with nitrogen vice air.Air is 79% oxygen which is a VERY active/reactive gas.

mrnickleye 06-08-2007 03:46 AM

Oops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dgl94456
nitrogen in tires is GOOD because nitrogen is an inert gas and therefore will not react in any way with tire material. And, because it is inert, it does not expand and contract with temperature or atmospheric pressure changes, which is why aircraft tires are inflated with nitrogen vice air. Air is 79% oxygen which is a VERY active/reactive gas.

Sorry Mate, but definately not true. In TRUTH, it approx 21% oxygen in the atmosphere. 78% nitrogen.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Meteoro...the_Atmosphere

And Remember...GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.

BUT...you are correct about nitrogen in tires.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Selling-Ni...-Air?&id=38142

4ageBT 06-11-2007 06:56 AM

Nitrogen is good for the tires. It makes your tire pressure constant no matter the road temparature. It keeps your tires in good shape because of the prevention of too much pressure.

finaltable 08-13-2007 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ageBT
It makes your tire pressure constant no matter the road temparature.

Nope. All gases, regardless of molecular composition, behave according to pv=nrt (pressure*volume=number of moles * constant * temperature.) It is IMPOSSIBLE to have constant pressure under rising temperature without changing one of the other factors at the same time. Since the inside of a tire is a roughly constant volume, unless you are planning on leaking gas when the temp goes up the pressure WILL increase.

mrnickleye 08-13-2007 02:32 PM

Facts are out there
 
Googling around brought these sites up. Check them out.

http://www.parker.com/ead/cm2.asp?cmid=9087

http://www.parker.com/ead/cm2.asp?cmid=9093&

The tires run cooler with pure nitrogen. While an air filled tire's pressure will increase 5*-10* when hot, a nitrogen filled tire will increase 1*-5*.

http://www.parker.com/balston/English/coolrunning.pdf
[quote]
"Sheehy and his technicians service their trucks as they come in off the road, and they’ve been checking tire pressures consistently as part of their nitrogen test. According to Sheehy, every truck leaves home base with their drive tires inflated to 85 pounds. “If you check the tire pressures right off the road, a normally aired up tire will come in at between 90-95 pounds consistently when they’re hot. The nitrogen comes in between 85 and 90 pounds. It’s more stable, which means they’re running cooler".

But for me...since 80% of my driving is short trips around town, I use regular air, and I tend to wear the tread out quicker than the rest of the tire...and I do check and top up my air pressure (36psi) regularly.

fulljapan 08-13-2007 04:18 PM

Once again mrnickleye cuts it.

Shaihulud 09-01-2007 01:00 PM

It's mostly a way for tire stores to make an extra 5.00 per tire.

ultimatewarrior8888 06-04-2008 07:53 AM

Good writing
 
Good writing. Keep up the good work.I love this site, let's try our best together, seize everyday, just do it!Runescapemoney.

Supra Greg 11-25-2008 03:30 PM

Funny... I didnt see one thing about Moisture.... :}




Or did i miss it someplace...

bioskyline 10-25-2010 08:49 PM

apperntly argon is also used. heres what i googled

Argon is used in the tires of luxury cars to protect the rubber from oxygen and to ensure quiet tires when the car moves at fast speeds.

crg1990 12-14-2011 08:43 AM

Actually according to the ideal gas law, Pv=nRT, as volume is staying the same and temperature is increasing, pressure will also increase. Nitrogen does not increase in pressure as much as oxygen because it has a higher specific heat and requires more heat energy to increase in temperature.

pandrade 01-20-2012 11:42 PM

from what i know nitrogen doesent seep throught the ruber as fast as natural compressed air, besides that its just easier to mesure becaus it isent as afected by temp changes as natural air. if you cant get it free dont wast ur money, i get for free from costco so for me its like why not

tmothy3 02-12-2018 08:36 AM

If you don't check your tire pressure regularly, nitrogen might be a good choice. Nitrogen filled tires lose pressure slower than the ones filled with air.

mrnickleye 04-11-2018 01:17 AM

Nitrogen Molecules Bigger Than O2 ones
 
That is true, and why tires with nitrogen stay full longer than regular air filled tires. BUT....I ain't gonna be givin' dem fools my $$ for nitrogen. I have 4 air compressors at home.


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