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Feel-IX 05-30-2007 12:46 AM

JDM Supra conversion to USDM Supra
 
Hi! I was wondering how much it would cost to get about the same amount of hp then the USDM supra , but on a JDM (276hp to 320hp like the US one)

and also what are the viable options to get those kind of gains?

thank you!

pwpanas 05-31-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Feel-IX
Hi! I was wondering how much it would cost to get about the same amount of hp then the USDM supra , but on a JDM (276hp to 320hp like the US one)

and also what are the viable options to get those kind of gains?...

There are only 3 significant differences between the two versions: injectors, intake-side cam, and turbos. To me personally, the slightly smaller turbos aren't really that much of a problem in raising horsepower, because they should handle a slightly higher boost level without issue (based on what we generally know about raising boost in the Mkiv). The jdm-spec 440cc injectors theoretically should handle 320hp no problem (but note they will not handle the higher "bpu++" horsepower levels that the us-spec 2jz-gte's 550cc injectors do). Lastly, changing the intake side cam to us-spec, although ideal, would likely cause tuning issues with the jdm's map-based setup. As a result, unless you want to get into some extensive re-tuning with (for example) a GReddy e-Manage, I'd suggest you do not change the intake side cam. In other words, with premium fuel, I'd suggest raising the boost level slightly in the jdm mkiv tt is all you should need to do in order to achieve that 320hp rating of the us-spec mkiv tt.

P.S. Fwiw, I believe that the jdm mkiv tt's published spec of 276hp was underrated by a large margin. In other words, it may in fact be much closer to 320hp without any changes at all. That said, note that bone stock (very low mileage) us-spec Mkiv TT's have actually dyno'd at 310-325 hp, at the wheels! In other words, even if you do get 320 hp at the crank out of a jdm Mkiv tt, you won't necessarily match the performance of a us-spec bone-stock Mkiv TT.

Feel-IX 05-31-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pwpanas
There are only 3 significant differences between the two versions: injectors, intake-side cam, and turbos. To me personally, the slightly smaller turbos aren't really that much of a problem in raising horsepower, because they should handle a slightly higher boost level without issue (based on what we generally know about raising boost in the Mkiv). The jdm-spec 440cc injectors theoretically should handle 320hp no problem (but note they will not handle the higher "bpu++" horsepower levels that the us-spec 2jz-gte's 550cc injectors do). Lastly, changing the intake side cam to us-spec, although ideal, would likely cause tuning issues with the jdm's map-based setup. As a result, unless you want to get into some extensive re-tuning with (for example) a GReddy e-Manage, I'd suggest you do not change the intake side cam. In other words, with premium fuel, I'd suggest raising the boost level slightly in the jdm mkiv tt is all you should need to do in order to achieve that 320hp rating of the us-spec mkiv tt.

P.S. Fwiw, I believe that the jdm mkiv tt's published spec of 276hp was underrated by a large margin. In other words, it may in fact be much closer to 320hp without any changes at all. That said, note that bone stock (very low mileage) us-spec Mkiv TT's have actually dyno'd at 310-325 hp, at the wheels! In other words, even if you do get 320 hp at the crank out of a jdm Mkiv tt, you won't necessarily match the performance of a us-spec bone-stock Mkiv TT.

thanks a lot pwpanas, you are an infinite source of knowledge as always :)

pwpanas 05-31-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Feel-IX
thanks a lot pwpanas, you are an infinite source of knowledge as always :)

Glad I was able to help... I'd bet there are others on the forum with great experience on this topic to share - I hope they post as well.


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