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Z4Dave 10-02-2006 10:55 PM

Buying a Supra
 
I`ve done a few Searches Got some good info on buying a supra
timming belt, Head gasket, ect
any thing you would like to add please do!

in a 1995 non Turbo is the engine size different than the turbo engine?

also im trying to buy 1995 non turbo 100kmiles Manual (bone Stock) hes asking 15,000 OBO
havent drove it yet but, he says hes the 1st owner.Clutch, gears, brakes, & engine all good

Good deal?

tone loc 10-02-2006 10:57 PM

15000 for an mkiv is a little cheap eithier there is something wrong like structure damage or its just a good deal.

Z4Dave 10-02-2006 11:00 PM

Thx for the Fast reply

Another thing it has like a cream ivory interior but the out side is like maybe a dark blue or green cant tell

has it been re painted?

tone loc 10-02-2006 11:08 PM

i never seen a factory blue or green supra
I know there is black, grey,red, and white but i dont think there is blue or green in there. a good way to check if its been painted is to look in the engine bay.

pwpanas 10-03-2006 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z4Dave
I`ve done a few Searches Got some good info on buying a supra
timming belt, Head gasket, ect
any thing you would like to add please do!...

Who told you that you should be concerned about the oem head gasket in an MK4? That info is completely inaccurate. Also, with proper maintenance, the timing belt shouldn't be an issue either. Look for proper maintenance records, and do a compression test especially if you consider a tt. Fwiw, I'd also advise you to have either an MK4 Supra specialist, or an ASE certified Toyota mechanic (or both) look at it before you plunk down the cash...
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Originally Posted by Z4Dave
...in a 1995 non Turbo is the engine size different than the turbo engine?...

No, they're the same displacement...but compression ratio, ignition system, and head configurations are very different.

Z4Dave 10-03-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pwpanas
have either an MK4 Supra specialist, or an ASE certified Toyota mechanic (or both) look at it before you plunk down the cash...

Would a toyota Dealer Take a look at it?

or know of any places in Norcal

pwpanas 10-03-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Z4Dave
Would a toyota Dealer Take a look at it?

or know of any places in Norcal

If it's an non-turbo, then it's probably safe to let a Toyota dealer do a general/overall mechanical inspection. If you want to get a tt checked out, I'll help you get in touch with an expert...

Z4Dave 10-03-2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pwpanas
If it's an non-turbo, then it's probably safe to let a Toyota dealer do a general/overall mechanical inspection. If you want to get a tt checked out, I'll help you get in touch with an expert...

TT is out of my price rang right now, so likley going to be a NA

GR0614 10-05-2006 08:19 PM

What would be a good amount of miles to look for in buying a supra, 96-98? Also what would be the easier mod, buying a turbo single or twin.

pwpanas 10-06-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
What would be a good amount of miles to look for in buying a supra, 96-98?...

Zero? The lower the mileage the better...but of course you'll pay a lot more for a low mileage MK4 Supra.

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...Also what would be the easier mod, buying a turbo single or twin.

Do you mean an Mk4 that has already been modified with a single turbo kit?

GR0614 10-06-2006 08:50 PM

i meant like if i buy a single or twin, which would be more easier to mod. i guess the same right?

pwpanas 10-07-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
i meant like if i buy a single or twin, which would be more easier to mod. i guess the same right?

How do you plan to buy a single? Are you talking about a MKIII? Or you talking about a pre-modified MKIV?

GR0614 10-10-2006 04:24 PM

im sorry, i meant a single turbo compared to a twin turbo, what one would be more eaiser to mod, keeping the stock turbos?

pwpanas 10-10-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
im sorry, i meant a single turbo compared to a twin turbo, what one would be more eaiser to mod...

If you're talking about mk4 supras (and not mk3 supras), since every & all single turbo mk4 supras have already been modified (otherwise there's absolutely no way a single turbo could possibly be on there), I guess you could say that overall (for the most part) a single turbo mk4 would probably be easier to re-modify. Taking those stock twins off is tough. On the other hand, the lower exhaust manifold nuts are a bit harder to access with an aftermarket tubular header though...and of course you'll probably pay more for a pre-modified single turbo mk4 supra.

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...keeping the stock turbos?

Again, if you're talking about mk4 supras (and not mk3 supras), the only way you could "keep the stock turbos" would be to purchase a twin turbo mk4 supra, since every & all single turbo mk4 supras have already had the stock twins removed.

If you're talking about mk3 supras, then the vast majority of them are not equipped with stock twin turbos: most of them came with a stock single turbo (or n/a). The only exception is the relatively rare (especially in the US) 1jz-gte twin turbo...but those are non-sequential twin turbos (versus the sequential twin turbos in the mk4 tt).

I hope that helps to answer your question, although I'm still not sure that I understand exactly what you're trying to ask...

GR0614 10-10-2006 06:24 PM

So all MK4 come twin turobed? i did not know that, i thought that some came single turbo and twin. only the MK3 comes with a single right? ok i understand know. im sorry for the stupid questions.

pwpanas 10-10-2006 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
So all MK4 come twin turobed?

Yes, except the normally aspirated/non-turbo ones.

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...i did not know that, i thought that some came single turbo and twin.

Really? Where did you hear that? I'd love to find the source of that bad information and ensure that it is stamped out...

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...only the MK3 comes with a single right?

Yes, except the normally aspirated/non-turbo ones, and the rare non-sequential twin turbo 1jz-gte equipped ones...

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...ok i understand know. im sorry for the stupid questions.

No prob...glad we figured it out and got you your answers...

GR0614 10-10-2006 08:10 PM

another question, how is the room in a supra? as far as comfort and leg space and the height, i dont want my head to be sticking out with the top off. im 6'4 and i was wondering if there is a good amount of room to be ccomfortable during long drives. any tall fellas wanna tell there stories

pwpanas 10-10-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
another question, how is the room in a supra? as far as comfort and leg space and the height, i dont want my head to be sticking out with the top off. im 6'4 and i was wondering if there is a good amount of room to be ccomfortable during long drives. any tall fellas wanna tell there stories

There's plenty of headroom, unless you're wearing a helmet (eg. for track use). My buddy is a full 6'4"+, and he fits no problem.

GR0614 10-10-2006 08:15 PM

awesome. thanks for the info

pwpanas 10-10-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
awesome. thanks for the info

Glad I could help.

Again, where did you hear or read the MK4 was offered by Toyota with an oem single turbo???? I really would like to get to the bottom of that misinformation and get it corrected before any others are duped.

talltrini10 10-10-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pwpanas
There's plenty of headroom, unless you're wearing a helmet (eg. for track use). My buddy is a full 6'4"+, and he fits no problem.

I would be said buddy:). The MK4 is actually one of the more comfortable cars I've ridden in. I've done 15 hour drives to and from Texas in one with no discomfort at all

GR0614 10-10-2006 08:37 PM

Well i didnt see it anywhere, i just figured they would, it was my mistake. i thought they would have offered a single opition also along with the twin turbos. So i was the one who made it up, lol. sorry.

Another question, are any suspension mods needed right off the bat? like sway bars, any such thing?

pwpanas 10-10-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
...Another question, are any suspension mods needed right off the bat? like sway bars, any such thing?

Not needed at all, unless you're a highly competitive roadracer... I'd suggest you try the oem suspension first (assuming it's in spec), and if you find it too soft throw in a set of KYB shocks...

GR0614 10-10-2006 08:46 PM

what do u mean by spec?

pwpanas 10-10-2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
what do u mean by spec?

On a high mileage mk4, the shocks or the bushings might be worn out, for example...

GR0614 10-10-2006 08:55 PM

oh ok cool.

GR0614 10-10-2006 09:06 PM

another question, was there a certain year where the supra might have been defective? like maybe a something wrong with a strut. or something. like for example ive heard in the gto certain amount of them had leaking struts. and in the cobras certain years had problems also.

pwpanas 10-11-2006 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
another question, was there a certain year where the supra might have been defective?

Afaik, there's no identified defect like that in the mk4 Supra, other than the minor problem with the hatch bumpers in '93-'95s.
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Originally Posted by GR0614
like maybe a something wrong with a strut. or something. like for example ive heard in the gto certain amount of them had leaking struts. and in the cobras certain years had problems also.

The Mk4 doesn't have any struts. Shocks only, with double-wishbone suspension.

All that said, (fwiw) one of my rear shocks did leak after about 25K miles.

GR0614 10-12-2006 04:35 PM

oh ok cool. do you have a major mods on your car? like bigger turbo?

pwpanas 10-12-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
oh ok cool. do you have a major mods on your car? like bigger turbo?

Yes...pretty much everything...even a fully built block & head (not stroked though...oem stroke is better for higher rpms).

GR0614 10-12-2006 07:13 PM

nice. whats your hp range, and any track times?

pwpanas 10-12-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
nice. whats your hp range, and any track times?

Not quite done the final build yet. It's probably a modest 800rwhp or so right now, but shooting for a lot more. Still need to install the aem p&h injector driver I bought. I'll be sure to post here when I have some good results to share...

GR0614 10-12-2006 08:49 PM

nice nice. what turbo are you running. do you mind listing all your mods. if not thats fine i understand. i was looking at the greddy website and man the turbos and wastegates are pricy but im sure well worth it.

pwpanas 10-13-2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
nice nice. what turbo are you running. do you mind listing all your mods. if not thats fine i understand. i was looking at the greddy website and man the turbos and wastegates are pricy but im sure well worth it.

I wish I had a list of all of my mods...I'm sure there are several hundred. Here's a very old(2001) mods list:
http://bellsouthpwp2.net/p/w/pwpanas/
...but there have literally been hundreds of changes since then.

GReddy turbos kits are among the cheapest available, because their turbos are generally considered outdated/obsolete and extremely laggy for their size. You can (now) get a smaller exhaust housing for the t78 which helps to correct some of its lagginess but it is still a very old turbo especially when compared with some of the new garrett GT35, GT42, and GT47 options...

If you want to see a "pricey" turbo kit, take a look at this one:
http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=695
...scroll down to the last one on that page.

GR0614 10-13-2006 06:56 PM

wow, awesome car. does it make much of a differnce going with an external wastegate or internal. i really dont know much about supra's or toyota. im coming from subaru's, so thats pretty much all i know. i know i was running an external wastegate on my sti and it made alittle difference compared too internal.

pwpanas 10-13-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
wow, awesome car. does it make much of a differnce going with an external wastegate or internal. i really dont know much about supra's or toyota. im coming from subaru's, so thats pretty much all i know. i know i was running an external wastegate on my sti and it made alittle difference compared too internal.

I don't know of any off-the-shelf turbo big enough to go on a 2jz-gte single turbo exhaust manifold/header that uses an internal wastegate.

GR0614 10-13-2006 09:17 PM

so your saying all turbo other then stock needs to go external?


also do all supra have the targa top?

pwpanas 10-13-2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GR0614
so your saying all turbo other then stock needs to go external?

Yes, unless you want to try a highly-customized (i.e. much more expen$ive than off-the-shelf) aftermarket turbo setup for some reason. Why do you ask?
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Originally Posted by GR0614
also do all supra have the targa top?

No. You can click on this link for more info.

BADSUP1 08-29-2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tone loc
i never seen a factory blue or green supra
I know there is black, grey,red, and white but i dont think there is blue or green in there. a good way to check if its been painted is to look in the engine bay.

Greens:

- Deep Jewel Green

Blues:

- Royal Sapphire Pearl

- Baltic Blue

:gotnos:

pwpanas 08-29-2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BADSUP1
Greens:

- Deep Jewel Green

Blues:

- Royal Sapphire Pearl

- Baltic Blue

:gotnos:

Greens:
You forgot IJM (Imperial Jade Mica)

Here's the 'cheat sheet':
http://www.mkiv.com/specifications/s...ers/color.html


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