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3s-gte in 89 supra
i was wonding how hard it is 2 put a 3s-gte in 2 a 1989 supra or if any 1 has done it
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Cant, 3s-gte are only set-up for front wheel drive or all wheel drive. Since its a front wheel drive engine it sits sideways, so it won't fit into the engine bay.
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There are some mk4's with them so I assume it could be done.
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I guess it can be done, lol. 1 question would be why? |
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Isn't the 3s a soarer engine??
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Ddnt the soarers have the 1j?
And they put the 3sgte in a supra for sum reason Either to loose more weight for rally since the 3sgte is able to hold up to 500hp Or to compete in a 4 cylinder class |
3sgte
the 3sgte is out of a celica and i want to do it cause u can sit it behind the front wheels to be able to drift it
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Why would you sit it in front of the front wheels, isn't the supra front-heavy enough already???
That's why its so hard to get an angle with the supra cuz of it, that's what makes it spin out during a drift |
http://www.suprastore.com/topsecsuport.html
This actually is a pretty neat idea, would be cool to duplicate what they did in an MKIV, only in your '89 |
3sgte
i ment behind the front wheels
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i really gotta ask
is the juice worth the squeeze with this idea? even so if the engine sits behind the front wheels how far behind would it be? how much for converting that engine to a rwd? im guessing custom mounts too, a whole engine swap, so on and so on what about you jus use the money for a little more horsepower and get a good rearend setup i think getting the whole rearend to a whole drift setup will be money well spent rather than the 3sgte conversion in an mk3 i still belive the most cost effective and beneficial conversion for the mk3 is the 2jz |
LMAO. Is the juice worth the squeeze. How could you rob that line from the movie man??? lol.
You can put me on record as for the juice not being worth the squeeze. But hey..., knock YOUR socks off man. |
These supras have plenty of power to drift. But using the 3s-gte is probably more money than it's worth. Pretty good balance too. I think its 47% in the front 53% in the back. The soarers came with 1jz-gte and 1jz-ge. The celica all-trac came with an AWD version of the 3s-gte and they came in MR-2s. They both come mounted sideways in the engine bay.
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Well there you I believe its conclusive now
Its not worth the squeeze And ps I did not know what movie that came from, I ddnt know it was a line in a movie till you said it Still my favorite funniest false line is: "He has a motec system exhaust" It will go down as the worst line in a movie for me |
3sgte
i am doing it to be different and i only want to use it as a drift car so u only need boout 400rwhp and u can push about 600rwhp any way if i wanting 2 but the thing is i want 2 no if u do have 2 change it 2 rear wheel drive and how u would go bout doing that
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Well, you can only drift with a RWD car. But I'm sure already knew that. The only way I can think of doing it is taking a 3s-gte from an MR-2 and mating a supra transmission to it and making custom tranny and engine mounts, and a custom driveshaft.
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after all that he needs to get it a rwd setup |
3sgte
there is more parts around for the 3s then the 1j 2j and 7m motors and it is not a dear as u think and i think u can buy a race prep one out of japan like wat they use in the mkiv for the gt racing but i just want to know how u woiuld change it to rear drive
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hmm that seems like alot of work just to set it up for drifting. i agree with everyone else, i dont think its worth the amount of money and work involved. your better off just stickin with the 7mgte or swapping it with a 1jz/2jz, with the 7mgte you will have to keep up on oil, check it before you drift it. the oil tends to slosh around in there. but just get yourself some good coil overs, strut bars, and a cheap set of tires or maby some good drift tires if your willing to spend. and you can drift that supra like there is no tomorrow. hell i drift mine everyday. and its almost completly stock. its not that hard of a car to drift you just goto get the feel for it, learn how heavy it is, have a feel for when you need to give it more gas. just go drift in a big empty parking lot in the middle of no where and do perfect donuts and figure 8's you'll get it down. if you lived closer id teach you how to do it :)
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Its ALOT of work to try and get a transversely mounted engine to sit longitudally. I schemed up a plan to try and do that with the japan exclusive version of the sr20vet, which is a rare version of the sr20det with vvti like timing control for nissan on my 240sx. BUT after alot of research decided that there was waaaay to much fabrication involved and labor for the benifits. Although in ur case there is no physical power gain like there would be in my swap, urs is completely pointless. And even if you wanted to TRY and get this engine to sit transversely in a supra (impossible), it wouldnt be a drift car. I mean yea there are light crx's and light older civics that drift, but there not a 3700lb rwd front heavy car...
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mmm civics and crx's are FWD. they ass drag not drift.
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Maybe a crx since I have seen a rwd crx here b4 and they are pretty light
I don't see why it couldn't drift Idk about a civic, I guess a rwd conversion isn't too farfetchd I have seen a 4g63 powered awd civic That was a crazy setup But he askd if he had to covert it into a rwd, that makes me wonder if he really knows what he's doing But here's sum food for thought Why don't u use the mr2 drivetrain And create a MR supra But be sure to find a way to put the engine in front of the rear wheel Now that would be unique |
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yea thats it lol.
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3sgte
i am finding out how much its going to cost and how much work is involved other wise i will go with a 1jz and i have a 7m and i used to drift mine just fine but i want to do it as a complete drift car so i can compete in drift australia. 7m a the crap of toyota no one makes parts for the 7m enough to copete at national level
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cuz it will be pretty hard to compete in the drag circuit since its already plagued with 10 second mkiv supras |
To be an amateur drifter or even compete with them, you're going to have to modify the steering. The angle that the stock wheels turn to aren't enough. Sure you can get a good drift but it will be pretty hard to keep it at the right angle.
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3sgte
what enginge r u doing supra2NR
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