sweet. i just called toyota, and the tail lamp kit was $192, so i could probably find it for cheaper elsewhere. now i have to find a performance exhaust from someplace...3 inch preferably...both cats and a muffler. basically every pipe, from the pipe coming down from the engine straight back to (and including) the muffler.

edit: to aid in my search, what would all those parts be called?

so how much does he want for the car

the asking price in the paper was 3300. since then, he has said hed fix the exhaust for sure and would cut down the price because of the tail light problem.

mom suggested offering a grand, going up to 1500. dad said start at 1500, which im probably gonna do, a grand is silly. between 1500 and 2000 is probably a good spot, because of those first two reasons and the numerous other little things wrong with it. *crosses fingers*

considering the damage on that car exceeds what you might pay for it...


id start real low about $1500 too

thas what i said haha. well, i called him, and thats where i started...he sounded REALLY surprised, and promptly refused....so i bumped it up to 1800, because of how shocked he was, he said he wouldnt sell it for under 2700...which i responded to just as shockingly lol. i mentioned something about all the damage, we kind of threw out a few more prices, and he said to call him tomorrow while he thinks about it and talks to his mom.

i dont think ill go higher than 2250. 2300 tops. i cant be spending all this money i dont have on repairs for a car that shouldve been fine when i bought it.

I bought mine for $1500. Shotty turbo and the interior was a bit torn up. And it had full 3" exhaust, boost controler, K&N intake, turbo timer. Don't spend more than $2000 on that car, for $2700 you could fine one bone stock and in near perfect shape. (If you look long enough.)

ok, ill keep that in mind. 2 grand it is :-P finding prices on exhausts n stuff now...COOLEEZE 3 inch cat back with magnaflow muffler, 400...high flow ceramic cat 240, all bolt on.

um, whats the name of the pipe that leads from the engine down towards the exhaust? its almost perpendicular to the ground. thats the one thats cracked.

interior isnt bad, except for the moonroof, which someone ripped the cloth almost entirely off of.

gah. negotiating sucks. thanks though :)

Its called a downpipe.

Example. http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/car/279476121.html

Also KBB on it is around $2000 in "fair" shape.

thats the downpipe? i thought the downpipe was the one leading to the second cat, parallel to the ground. crap, now i need a downpipe. any place you can just buy it by itself?

o0o, craigslist...thanks for the link. ok, ill keep that in mind as well....not to sound maniacal or anything, but ive been talking to myself for the past half an hour trying to find the best wording for convincing him its worth 2 grand. ive got quite the argument :P i hope it works.

say youll offer him 2000 and if he laughs then turn around and walk away.
i wouldnt buy that car. theres a lot of damage there.