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burton51m 01-28-2007 04:30 PM

im sure nate knows what he is talking about

Supra2NR 01-28-2007 05:42 PM

I don't think he was being an ass
Jus another question in the forum,

Plus 667rwhp says he knows what he's talking about lol

kwnate 01-28-2007 09:12 PM

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dyno sheet and proof

j3pz 01-29-2007 02:45 AM

a very delightful discussion here

stock ct26 is good to 13-14psi, after that its just a hair dryer. ive heard that fcd isnt any good but thats just what ive heard.

upgradedsupra 01-29-2007 04:54 AM

I say > listen to Nate..he knows what is going on. He has a way or telling people how it is and that is what people like about him. LOL

Duane

88Tsupra 01-30-2007 05:04 AM

i felt the fuel Cut tonight in long beac CA
 
Damn nate i felt that Fuel Cut i was with my lil cousin and two friends and i bought my 88T Targa top supra on sat and i took it for a nice spin today and floord it and after i stopped the whole car shut off and the check engine light came on...if thats wha u mean by fuel cut...buh can i ask u a question also...wen i turn my steering wheel all the way it makes a knocking sound badly..i can use ur help PLZ im new this dis...TY

88Tsupra 01-30-2007 06:18 PM

hey whats the best injector brand to go with

Isphius 01-30-2007 08:44 PM

This is incorrect!! Fuel cut is the ECU slowing the fuel injectors to idle, To stop the car from breaking itself. It stops it when the AFM is reading higher than a predetermined frequency. That is why its a general range, because of air temp, humidity, barometric pressure, etc. It is not the fuel pump failing. If you hit fuel cut it feels like you just broke something, and the CEL will come on for a little while. And detonation happens because the inside of the motor is getting so hot when the piston is on the way up it detonates the fuel before the sparkplug does, also not because of fuel. It can detonate because of lean air/fuel, but thats not all that causes it. And not matter how much gas you have, the ecu will still cut it just the same. Its about air! not fuel. But of course they must match. All the lex afm does is let unmetered air go through, and the 550s to make up for it. which is basically a crap shoot with tuning.


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Originally Posted by IHateHacks
Fuel cut is when the fuel pump can no longer flow enough fuel to supply what the injectors are demanding. Fuel pressure rises about 1 psi for every psi of boost. As fuel pressure rises, flow falls. Yes, I know that doesn't make sense but it is a proven fact. That 10-14psi range is just the general range that a stock fuel pumps' flow falls off. Now when that happens the air/fuel ratio becomes dangerously high and detonation is emminent. Thats when the ECU cuts the fuel entirely to prevent damage. You can raise the fuel cut boost range with mods like a walbro fuel pump, 550cc injectors and a lexus MAF but fuel cut will always be there. It's your engine's way of telling you you need more fuel.


abhattan 01-30-2007 11:01 PM

You guys sound like you know enough, but there is no need ot fight. I don't have much to spend on this car right now, therefore, when I do something, I like to do it right the first time and not half step. If I use the HKS VPC as an afc, will that be sufficient? Like I said, I don't want to buy something now and in a about a year, by the thing I should have bought when I do my rebuild.

IHateHacks 01-31-2007 01:11 AM

First of all AFM's run on voltage not frequency, its not a motherboard cpu. Ever read live data from a scan tool?

Guess what happens when there is not enough fuel? Detonation. Air is plentyful, you will never run out of air on a motor. It's fuel you will run out of. Which causes the Air Fuel ratio to spike, causing detonation. All of this happens faster than you can blink your eye.

"And detonation happens because the inside of the motor is getting so hot when the piston is on the way up it detonates the fuel before the sparkplug does"

Nope, thats preignition. Detonation is an explosion inside the cylinder no matter what stroke the piston is on and it usually results in a hole in your cylinder block. I've seen it before.

"also not because of fuel"- No, its because of lack of fuel that the stock fuel pump can not deliver.

"It is not the fuel pump failing."

Never said that, please quote me where I stated that.


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