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alcbarrios 11-29-2006 11:22 PM

realistic hp figure for turbo before internals
 
i am looking for some numbers in hp on a 5spd turbo supra before going into the engine. of course i am looking for safe numbers i dont want to max out my car one time and then have a scrap engine. so what is a safe hp mark whithout internal work.also what parts are we talking about? boost controller, oversized injectors, maf, exhaust, intake,?????

j3pz 11-29-2006 11:45 PM

i recall hearing 500hp but id say you might wanna get new internals before that. id say go the whole yards, pistons, rods, bearing, and maybe even the crank...


most ppl dont worry about the internals untill they start modding...

Supra2NR 11-30-2006 02:25 PM

the shop that i was going to has a "top secret mk3" 650 hp
they told me the stock internals' limits are to 650 hp
and 500 horses is still playing it safe

kwnate 11-30-2006 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Supra2NR
the shop that i was going to has a "top secret mk3" 650 hp

Weaksauce...

twurbo.oggy 12-02-2006 07:24 PM

yea, but thats stock internals dude

kwnate 12-03-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alcbarrios
i am looking for some numbers in hp on a 5spd turbo supra before going into the engine. of course i am looking for safe numbers i dont want to max out my car one time and then have a scrap engine. so what is a safe hp mark whithout internal work.also what parts are we talking about? boost controller, oversized injectors, maf, exhaust, intake,?????

How many miles are on your car? In its life, has the oil been changed regularly? How many times has the car been overheated?

Point is, unless you rebuild the motor you don't know what you have. A freshly rebuilt 7m probably could handle 550rwhp (with a good tune) but one with 130,000 miles probably won't last long. If you want big power make sure you have money to rebuild the engine after you blow up your hi mileage motor.

Getting to 500hp is easy, making it last is where you'll spend most of your money.

But hey, what do i know...

j3pz 12-03-2006 08:06 PM

why would you skip over some of the more important parts of a build just so you dont gotta tear up the engine and spend lil more money? why invest all this money then take a risk of it blowing up? its just stupid not to. and when you get up to that mark, whats left to mod?

Supra2NR 12-03-2006 10:17 PM

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why would you skip over some of the more important parts of a build just so you dont gotta tear up the engine and spend lil more money? why invest all this money then take a risk of it blowing up? its just stupid not to. and when you get up to that mark, whats left to mod?
i ddnt say skip it completely
he was asking wats the numbers that u can do b4 switching internals

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Supra2NR
the shop that i was going to has a "top secret mk3" 650 hp



Weaksauce...
ur opinion is ur opinion dude, im not to argue
i cant prove it to u, cuz they wont even let me take pics of it

kwnate 12-03-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Supra2NR
i ddnt say skip it completely
he was asking wats the numbers that u can do b4 switching internals


ur opinion is ur opinion dude, im not to argue
i cant prove it to u, cuz they wont even let me take pics of it

Chill out chief I'm just fucking around...

Supra2NR 12-04-2006 03:52 AM

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Chill out chief I'm just fucking around...
i know, i ddnt say anything lol
jus ddnt want it to get bigger or anything
cuz i jus had to say b4 pple start asking
then if i can prove it, and so on and so on,
you know what i mean

XTREMESUPRA 12-13-2006 12:32 AM

500-550 is a save number on stock internal and the only thing u worry about is to get the headgasket done and everyone knows that

supraman121 12-13-2006 01:15 PM

I think im going to rebuild my 7mgt and forge my internals the rods bearings and pistons i think i was told the crankshaft should be able to handle the 400 hower i want but i might go safe and get a forged crank and then turbo my na 7mgt o ya and get the compression lowered or highered i forget which one it is

And Nate before you pfffft a 650horsepower car like its weak lets see your dyno sheet and lets get a vid of the car on the dyno cause i saw your burnout picture and i have to say for a 600hp car that looked pretty weak =)

kwnate 01-28-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by supraman121
And Nate before you pfffft a 650horsepower car like its weak lets see your dyno sheet and lets get a vid of the car on the dyno cause i saw your burnout picture and i have to say for a 600hp car that looked pretty weak =)

You must be talking about this: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/vide...MK3exhaust.wmv

FYI, that was with the stock turbo. Roughly 270whp. Can your NA even spin both rear tires at the same time??

upgradedsupra 01-29-2007 05:03 AM

Nate's car I know personally and have worked on it with him and same goes for him working on my car. I say give it 2 months and we will show some track time since we will both be there this year. :)

Dyno sheet as you already saw is proof. but comparing a burnout and trying to insinuate it doesn't look like 667 RWHP is .. well, weak as Nate would say ;)

Duane

dcrusupra 01-29-2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by upgradedsupra
Dyno sheet as you already saw is proof. but comparing a burnout and trying to insinuate it doesn't look like 667 RWHP is .. well, weak as Nate would say ;)

Duane

But 15 seconds in the quarter mile says different, lol. But broken dyno straps kinda cancel it out. :)

And supraman121, you dont need a new crank, just make sure to get it balanced.


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