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redmaro 10-12-2006 06:56 PM

Shifting in a automatic?
 
I always here some of my friends say they manually shift gear in their automaic transmission cars. I've heard this shouldent be done since it can mess-up your tranny.

Is this true?

burton51m 10-12-2006 07:06 PM

i dont c the point of it...
its not gonna make u faster
if u want to shift do a tranny swap or go buy a manual car..

tone loc 10-12-2006 07:58 PM

i think its called a tiptronic and you can have your car in drive like an auto but if you want to controll it you put the shifter in a certain spot and there is + and - and you just move it up or down to change gears.

ravenmaster 10-12-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone loc
i think its called a tiptronic and you can have your car in drive like an auto but if you want to controll it you put the shifter in a certain spot and there is + and - and you just move it up or down to change gears.

Youjust described steptronics. Tip is wht Formula 1 cas use.

tone loc 10-12-2006 10:41 PM

i know my friend has one in his acura and my boss has one in his vw

kwnate 10-12-2006 10:59 PM

Automatics shift for you. Let them.

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rnoswal 10-13-2006 12:10 AM

Floor it and see when it shifts. If you feel the power drop off before the shift or the car keeps pulling but shifts too early, then you may want to shift it manually. I think the auto turbo is supposed to be faster than the manual except for getting off the line.

Russ

Isphius 10-13-2006 02:35 AM

Automatic transmissions work by shifting after your car falls out of its powerband, And it can tell more acuratley than you can, Unless you have a messed up transmission or a motor swap, etc (like say, putting a motor with a 9k rpm redline with the a340, its still going to shift at like 6000 rpms because it has a governer as a safety) And the vws, acuras, new clipse, new maxima, etc and other cars have that tiptronic, auto-manual crap, It is just a fancy name for an automatic with a + and - for the gears. Its totally pointless. I went to test drive an elcipse gt and the salesman was trying to show it to me, and i just left it in D. oh well. The mr2 spyder like mine came with a 6 speed sequential transmission, Which a lot of people thought was an auto-manual thing, But its a real sequential 6 speed, It just has an automatic clutch and assisted shifting. But, The shifts are always the same whether driving slow or trying to drag race someone, Which makes it kind of kill the cars performance. You can tell by the massive difference in 0-60 between the 5 speed and 6/sequential. The good part about sequential transmissions is the massively fast shift time...like on a motorcylce. Seems kind of pointles to me...

redmaro 10-14-2006 03:00 AM

My friends are doing this kind of shifting in regular auto transmissions. But I know it dosent make you faster.

Supra2NR 10-15-2006 02:06 AM

are you guys talking about when racing?
its not that they manually shift thier car
most pple with autos jus launch it
by putting it in the lowest gear possible
P R N D 3 2 1
for example they will put in that in 1
get it redlined and then moved it up again to drive
this is a way to get a really good launch with an auto

but for the tiptronics out there,
manumatic, paddle shifter, whatever
i said what i said and i will say it again

hope thier right leg grows bigger than the left lol

Isphius 10-15-2006 04:42 AM

Putting your car in 1 will not make it any faster off the line than in D. It will just prevent it from shifting. The only time youd need to do this is if your car is modified in some way. The transmission knows what its doing.

Supra2NR 10-15-2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Putting your car in 1 will not make it any faster off the line than in D. It will just prevent it from shifting. The only time youd need to do this is if your car is modified in some way. The transmission knows what its doing.
o yes it does,
its bad for the tranny but
it does launch you better than in D

burton51m 10-15-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isphius
Automatic transmissions work by shifting after your car falls out of its powerband, And it can tell more acuratley than you can, Unless you have a messed up transmission or a motor swap


..well said



Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra2NR
it does launch you better than in D

no it doesnt...


having it in L (1) is the same thing as first gear in when in D...
except for you shift it when u want when in L, or1 ...which youll probably miss the powerband anyway. so its no better

Isphius 10-16-2006 05:43 AM

Yes, lol. 1st gear is 1st gear. shifting it manually is an ego thing.

Supra2NR 10-17-2006 04:33 PM

no, honestly
i can tell which one throws me back harder

Murd 10-17-2006 09:42 PM

Because it throws you back harder doesn't necessarily mean you're going faster in a 1/4 mile. Sometimes shifting at a lower RPM than SCREAMING gets you better times. All depends on where the power is.

burton51m 10-17-2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra2NR
no, honestly
i can tell which one throws me back harder

ego




.

Isphius 10-18-2006 02:51 PM

Thats called the placebo effect. Get a Gtech pro. and yes, supras make all their power before 5500 rpms, so taking it higher than the auto shifts at isnt making you any faster. Unlike my mr2, which has its peak power at 6400 and redlines at 6800, because it is a 1.8L.


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