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idoke 09-26-2006 03:40 PM

What is the cheapest, fastest way to gain BIG HP?
 
I want to know what kind of upgrades can I do without changing the turbo to get maximum output of my 7MGTE? As of this moment, I have a K & N Air Filter, HKS Blow off valve, Megan Downpipe and Trust exhaust. Turbo is currently set at 8PSi. What else could I do to make it run more powerful and yet safe? Thanks!


PS. Thanks to those who contributed to my other help thread. It was the TPS and the screws were loose. Thankyou!

suprra_girl 09-26-2006 09:39 PM

the next best thing you could do would be to upgrade your intercooler and get some intercooler hardpipes
it will make a big difference

kwnate 09-27-2006 12:32 AM

Get a metal headgasket, it'll give you 50hp. Oh wait, I mean it'll give you piece of mind. IMO there is no such thing as safe hp with the stock headgasket from the factory.

tone loc 09-27-2006 12:41 AM

word metal headgasket and arp head screws best thing to start with when trying to gain hp

idoke 09-27-2006 03:35 PM

Oops, forgot that I already have the 1.2mm HKS metal headgasket along with ARP studs. What kind of intercooler should I get? I saw some cheap ones on ebay. They were selling for about $90 dollars or so. What should I do?

Isphius 09-27-2006 06:58 PM

unplug your wastegate actuator :)

No dont really do that, It will fry your turbo. Unless you have a car that is in terrible shape like me and it boost to 8 psi with the WG unplugged.

calibroha 09-28-2006 04:28 PM

i've been hearing alot about metal head gaskets lately.. being new to the supra game (just bought an '87 7m-gte) i dont really know alot about them.. i went to toyota and they told me that the one they sell OEM is a metal head gasket.. is there a difference in those and any other metal ones ?

idoke 09-28-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isphius
unplug your wastegate actuator :)

Where is the actuator? Is that SAFE????

tone loc 09-28-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calibroha
i've been hearing alot about metal head gaskets lately.. being new to the supra game (just bought an '87 7m-gte) i dont really know alot about them.. i went to toyota and they told me that the one they sell OEM is a metal head gasket.. is there a difference in those and any other metal ones ?

idk about the dealer ship but i would go with hks or greddy. once i get my turbo engine i will be going to one of those two.

suprra_girl 10-03-2006 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idoke
Where is the actuator? Is that SAFE????

NO IT'S NOT

don't unplug it, if you are unsure where or what an actuator is you shouldn't be fiddling with it

XtreeX 10-04-2006 04:45 PM

In the following link they talk about shimming the wastegate with washers, is this safe?

http://supras.com/06/techcenter/display.php?QID=18

He said it was safe and easy and cheap. He also notes that anymore than 10psi and you need an aftermarket exhaust. But would this be safe with a stock setup? 6-10psi is a huge difference, almost 40hp if im correct. Input on this mod would be greatly appreciated.

theWeezL 10-04-2006 06:12 PM

I shimmed my 89T. The big intercooler had dropped stock boost to 7lbs. And I basically just wanted it just over stock. I got it to 10lbs safely but Im now hitting fuel cut. My turbo is pretty much junk anyways, and I have a stock replacement coming so I wasnt worried about hurting it. So long as the rest of your engine can support the extra boost its fine, and I would say with your list of already done mods it would be fine. Just dont get carried away.

Isphius 10-05-2006 03:51 AM

Weezl - I thought your car was n/a? or is this a former car?

theWeezL 10-05-2006 04:28 AM

I sold my 86.5 NA, and bought a 89T.

Isphius 10-05-2006 05:29 AM

Oh, didnt hear about that. congrats on the upgrade. I did the same thing haha. Sold my 86.5, bought my 88ttt.

theWeezL 10-05-2006 06:25 AM

Well I dont know if it was so much an upgrade...as a sidegrade. My NA was pretty friggin nice. Sure it wasnt a turbo, but it was solid and dependable. and I liked driving it.

The new Turbo has been nothing but problems. Sure it looks nice and goes fast...when I can get it started. I know in the end with time and patience and a bit of money I can make Lucy (thats her name, cause she is a freaky redhead) a nice car.

I still have an 89NA HT as well...which is still actually for sale..hint hint!

mkthreetillinfinity 10-05-2006 10:00 AM

more power but safe.
 
increase the boost up to like 10-12 psi. you should not exceed 14 psi its unsafe to go over 14. if you dont have a boost conroller, put holes on the wastegate hose. 1 hole is equal to 1 psi.

suprra_girl 10-05-2006 10:06 AM

at least buy a boost controller

Quote:

1 hole is equal to 1 psi
i wouldn't recommend this... that statement is open to interpretation
i.e how big are the holes

and if you do overboost not forgetting toyotas little toy called fuel cut ;)

Isphius 10-05-2006 04:25 PM

Yes, Mine is the same way. My n/a ran beautiful, Every time. Go outside in the winter and it starts up just like a brand new car. But my turbo runs like crap and now has a blown head gasket. lol. It wont start for crap. And once it does, It takes like 20 mins to warm up before it stops misfiring, And then when driving it seems to run fine, Like there is nothing wrong. But once it gets below like 1000 or 1100 rpms it runs like crap again and i have to nurse the rpms back up. Luckily its an auto, which makes it way harder.

theWeezL 10-05-2006 05:19 PM

yeah putting holes in your wastegate actuator line is inexact at best and dangerous at least. Shimming the gate is a proven and reliable way to increase boost. Short of getting a boost controller its the only thing I would even consider.

Isphius, my turbo runs great most of the time. Its just that when it gets hot sometimes it wont restart until she is completely dead cold again (like the next morning). I cant make sense of it, and have changed out nearly every part that could be suspect. She just seems to have a mind of her own. I just dont trust shutting her off somewhere where she might leave me stranded.


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