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supraboy8809 02-18-2006 06:19 PM

How much power
 
i cant seem to find any place that will tell me the exact horsepower of my car and it is bugging the crap out of me it is also bugging the crap out of that i am wondering how fast it goes on topend so anyone that has any kind of information on this it would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance

kwnate 02-18-2006 06:44 PM

I assume you have a supra. Search the site its on here.... turbo 230-232, NA 200. That flywheel on a new motor not a 15-20 year old one.

mrnickleye 02-18-2006 06:50 PM

Just be careful
 
200hp new, at the flywheel. My 89na went 125mph before intake and exhaust mods. Last time I "tested" it, I went 138mph, with a bit more peddle to go. I ran out of room.

Also, my son said to be very careful 'where' I do speeds over 130mph, because if I hit a dip, and get air under the car, it can get air bourne and flip over.
(He is a C130 airplane pilot in the Coast Gaurd, so he knows these things).

j3pz 02-18-2006 11:37 PM

thats not realistic, hitting a dip going 130 and it flipping over. ive seen those speed boats on tv doing that but they are like a third of the weight the supra and going faster. i cant see a car a ton and a half flipping over cause of air sweeping under it.

dcrusupra 02-18-2006 11:42 PM

I've seen a video of an RX-7 goin about 215, hitting a dip and getting flipped. It went about 15' into the air.

j3pz 02-18-2006 11:51 PM

well to get any car going that fast, it needs to be light. also, its going about 215, not 130

ddmcse 02-19-2006 03:01 AM

take the car to a dyno and have it tested
it's much safer

mrnickleye 02-19-2006 03:57 AM

Unknown roads can kill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j3pz
well to get any car going that fast, it needs to be light. also, its going about 215, not 130

Read this 'death' story about a car getting airborne upon hitting a 'dip' in the road.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ap...0324/1001/NEWS

(another article on same story)...
Investigators said the driver was going at least 75 miles an hour, or three times the posted speed limit. The car went airborne over a dip in the road. It flipped onto its side and slammed into a utility pole. The two girls died at the scene.

another death story...
A sophomore at ..... High School died Friday evening in an automobile accident on Fairfield Road. Driver was traveling west-bound about a mile from Riggs Road, near the Indiana border, when his car went airborne as it came out of a dip in the road, according to Deputy Jim Mueller of the Butler County Sheriff Department's Traffic Investigation Unit. The vehicle landed and driver lost control. After trying to regain control in the right lane, driver overcorrected and ended up on the left side of the roadway where he struck a tree. Mueller said speed was a factor in the accident.

My point is, high speeds and dips in the road can lead to accidents. So know the road before 'testing' the top speed of your car.

kwnate 02-19-2006 07:17 AM

Thats why you do it on the freeway, there are no dips that will send you airborne on the freeway...

lethalwithasupra 02-19-2006 09:10 AM

j3pzi think they mean " dips " like speed traps, not the dips that just ( just ? ) make you bottom out when you hit them at close to 200kph on a long stretch when you hit them then land. that's why you have spoilers and skirt kits

supraboy8809 02-19-2006 04:28 PM

i was not saying
 
i was not saying that i wanted to go out onto the road and hold it wide open that is just kind of stupid there is no way that i will hold it out that long o the road but there is only one problem with the dyno thing the closest dyno to my ouse that i know of is about 5 hours away from my house and i do not feel like driving that far to get it dynoed

rnoswal 02-19-2006 04:35 PM

NO, he didn't mean dips as in speed traps, he meant as in getting airborn. Watch the NASCAR guys. Their cars weigh similar to ours and it takes quite a bit to get them airborn at speeds approaching 180 to 190mph. The biggest problem is traffic and suspension. The car just isn't designed to gothat fast stock. With stiffer springs and shocks, better swaybars and high speed rated tires it will help. My problem is that most guys I see racing, I wouldn't trust to go more than 50 without wondering if they are still under control.

I have been racing dirt track cars for 15 years and autocrossing for almost as many. If you get out of control at either of these places you can correct it and learn how far to push. Anything that upsets the car at highway speeds is going to wreck you at twice that speed if you don't have any skills in knowing how to handle that type of a situation. Plus most of the time when you hear of teenagers getting killed it is because of one thing mainly, not using seatbelts!


Russ

mrnickleye 02-19-2006 09:36 PM

watch out for the other guy
 
^^^^quote a part....
My problem is that most guys I see racing, I wouldn't trust to go more than 50 without wondering if they are still under control.

LMAO.....yep, been there, done that.

I look at cars everyday (at the shop), and unless the guy has a ton of $$$ invested, these little ricer cars are just pieced together.

So you are gonna pull up beside some fool out on the street, and race him. His car hasn't been inspected, so maybe HE will kill you because of his crappy car, and the fact that he's got no experience racing.

You know, the one that needs a wheel bearing, but it costs too much to fix, so he's saving up, and gonna wait till it breaks all the way.

At least at the track, everybody's car has to meet some safety standards.
AND...there's an ambulance waiting to take you to the hospital.

And...what I mean by 'dips' is the ones in the road that you suddenly come upon, acting like a ramp, sending you airborne.

j3pz 02-19-2006 10:51 PM

im not trying to prove anyone wrong or nothing. im not saying its not possible, cause anything is possible. i can see a car goin fast, hit a dip, the driver swerving over the road, overcorrect the car and flip over its side. its just difficult to see a car like ours flip nose over ass.

lethalwithasupra 02-20-2006 07:00 AM

... yea thought it'd take quite a ramp to launch a supra even at close to its top speeds. 140mph just seems a little low to flip through the air even on stock suspension. although i can deffinately see a stock supra ( well anything really ) going sideways at that speed

i'm no pro, so i'll stop correcting ppl. srry.

ps - fyi i did fix my wheel bearing as soon as i noticed it. trying to top out my supra isn't something i do on the way home for kicks or beside a similar fool at 1am. some ppl are just -> :nuts:

pps - anybody know of a club car going cheap-ish in SI NZealand ?

mrnickleye 02-21-2006 02:15 AM

No, its not gonna catch air and flip backwards. But on a dip, if it gets airborne, the wind will play a role in tipping it sideways, then when it finally hits the ground, the wheels will likely not be lined up straight, then it will cause it to do some flipping and rolling and ...well...you get the picture.

Then, another supra get crushed for scrap. :(

j3pz 02-21-2006 06:03 PM

oh all right i see now. if you put in roll instead of flip id not made any noise :confused: ok back to the point before i took the thread in another direction, dont do drugs... no that wasnt it...

mrnickleye 02-22-2006 02:25 AM

^^^^ not while driving, for sure. Here in Calif, if you get stopped by cops, tested for alcohol or drugs, that's DUI. First offense is some jailtime and $1500. If you are in an accident (even when its not your fault, like they ran the stop sign) and you go to hospital, and they take blood, they will test it, and if there's drugs (like that vicodin you were prescribed for that pain), you will get sited for DUI.

Ops...me bad...I drifted away from topic.

WiseAssJester 02-22-2006 02:31 AM

A turbo, manual Supra of this generation is quick enough to be fun. Can take most hondas, even some modded(in my stock 7mgte at 190k miles). Though I guess thats not all togather so impressive.

Traction issues are minor, on decent tires. Don't pull up on an STI or SRT4 and expect to walk him, though.

lethalwithasupra 02-22-2006 09:17 AM

hah ! i smoked a stock honda. by the time he crossed the finish line, i was standing on it. but my legs were pretty tired afterwoods ...
*bud-dom-bom pssssshh*


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