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lifesnotfair 12-22-2005 05:19 AM

Lowering a MKIII?
 
I tried looking for threads on this, but I couldn't find any...

I recently put some 18's on my Supra, and with stock suspension it looks quite tall. I don't wanna put it barely above ground as it is my daily driver and don't wanna have headaches when having to pass uneven surfaces.

I've noticed there is more space above the front wheels than the rear wheels... I'd say a 2 inch drop in front, and 1 inch in the back, would be more than good. Maybe 1.5 in front if I can't find something that drops it 2 inches.

Now, the thing is, I'm on a budget and honestly, don't wanna spend a lot of money on this. I don't care about the handling, to me it handles well already.. remember it's N/A with no mods... oh, yeah, 2.5" exhaust, which I did today, big deal! Heh. So what would you guys recommend?

BTW, whenever I go through an imperfection in the street, I feel it a lot. Could it be the struts are worn out? Or what? .. I drove my sister's Corolla today and it felt so nice to run over any hole in the street, it'd just feel comfortable anyways. If I step on a hole in the street, I feel it more than I would like to...

Bullz_EyE 12-22-2005 05:37 AM

Eibach + Tokico Illuminas. Again you mention budget. Your mods should be well thought out, that way there will be little or no regret after making a purchase for an upgrade. Maybe you should have done the suspension 1st before anything else. Every car I've owned, lowering the car was my 1st objective. With one exception, my Supra. I had to tear into the engine 1st out of necessity, upgrading certain things while I was there was only logical.

SupraMan1784 12-22-2005 02:44 PM

tokico whites and ground control springs are a good combo, my first obligation is the motor/suspension...i try and balance it at the same time... more power means that the suspension needs to be upgraded to handle all of it...no sense in making 400hp and running stock setup

bigal0043 12-22-2005 04:25 PM

i was checking out the prices for that stuff.... wow a college kid like me is going to have to save up some cash to lower it..

Bullz_EyE 12-22-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bigal0043
i was checking out the prices for that stuff.... wow a college kid like me is going to have to save up some cash to lower it..

Yup. Actually, it was the 1st thing I was going to do except the headgasket blew before I even had a real taste of my cars potential. I only drove it twice before it took a poo. So I bought a rebuilt head, stainless 3" elbow, headgasket kit, Bosch fuel filter, NGK Wires and Iridium plugs, an HKS Downpipe, HKS headgasket, and ARP head bolts. I'm in the process of doing it now, otherwise it would've been dropped already. I still have to buy a bunch of replacement hoses because a lot of the original stuff is cracking.

Man I wonder if anybody here bought that used Tein HA (Japan only) full coilover suspension off of eBay. It was fully adjustable and had dual springs so you can lower it even further without worring about preload. It went for less than $400 with shipping. I wanted that sooooo bad but had to do my headgasket.

lifesnotfair 12-22-2005 10:44 PM

Hrm...
 
From your opinions, I guess I can't be cheap with the suspensions.... =)

88Supraboy 12-22-2005 11:01 PM

Hay not fast, i just ordered some lowering springs for 140.00$!! there a 2" drop from aerospeed. its a good cheap start, and if you just want it lowered they should be fine. even tho i havent got them yet so not positive that there ok.
the site is www.935motorsports.com
-good luck

-Brian

bigal0043 12-27-2005 08:53 PM

i was talking to my friend and he said something about a camber kit? would we need one of those... i dont see how we would considering we are using all stock locations...

kwnate 12-27-2005 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigal0043
i was talking to my friend and he said something about a camber kit? would we need one of those... i dont see how we would considering we are using all stock locations...

From what I have read, you don't need a camber kit. Even lowered it can be aligned within the factory specs.

bigal0043 12-27-2005 10:29 PM

alright cool.. over on 935 motor sports they have some cheap kits on there for like 300 bucks are those any good?

Isphius 03-03-2006 10:02 PM

On a front wheel drive or any strut suspension (the supra isnt sruts they just look like them) if you lower it too much it messes up the camber rise, so the camber plate is to adjust the camber back out so it isnt messed up. I dont know why people call them struts, and get strut braces, i cant see what these would do. i thought the supra was front and rear struts because the mounts look like it, till i took the wheels off, just regular double wishbones. well rear is multi link. whatever. haha

KNYFE 03-04-2006 04:11 PM

A good general rule for life...

Buy Cheap, Buy Twice...

If a part is more then you are willing to spend at the time, wait until you can buy the good one, don't waste your money on a cheap alternative to last until you buy the good one. It is just foolish.

supra_91 03-04-2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifesnotfair
BTW, whenever I go through an imperfection in the street, I feel it a lot. Could it be the struts are worn out? Or what? .. I drove my sister's Corolla today and it felt so nice to run over any hole in the street, it'd just feel comfortable anyways. If I step on a hole in the street, I feel it more than I would like to...

it's because of your 18" rims with the low profile tires. with the low profile tires you will feel practically every bunp in the road

Isphius 03-05-2006 08:01 PM

Thats true too. the reason most luxury cars have big fat tires is to soak up bumps. i think the tires actually help more than a soft suspension in absorbing bumps. BTW, does anyone know if eibach lowering springs affect the handling for the better? and what are some lsightly stiffer non-tems shocks i could use? 'cause i do want to lower my car an inch or 2 as well.

Burn N' Up 03-06-2006 01:37 AM

Does any one know if lowering springs put more stress on your shocks? Are they more likely to blow your shocks out?

lifesnotfair 03-06-2006 12:45 PM

I already lowered it!
 
Funny that I see this thread back up, because just two days ago I lowered the car.

I will get some bashing for sure, I know, because I didn't go too expensive.

My car is NON-TEMS, and I just wanted good shocks because mine were NOT too good. At least the rear ones, they were kinda tired. I didn't want adjustable shocks or anything. My car's not a race car, it's a daily driver. So when I read on a webpage a little review about KYB GR-2 shocks, it said "think of these as what the stock ones should've been!" .. it said good things about them. And in some places, some people rated them higher than the Tokico Blue ones (or Tokico HP). I got my shocks for 155$ shipped! All 4! How could I resist?

The springs, I wasn't so cheap with. I bought Eibach Pro Kit which was around 230-240 shipped.

The car looks GREAT now. It lowered just a bit on the rear, and more on the front, which is exactly what I wanted.

-It is lowered enough to look FIIIIIIINE!
-It is high enough to go over stuff without me suffering because stuff is hitting the buttom of my car, hah. So I have no problems for daily driving.

Say what you wish, but I'm loving the setup...

KNYFE 03-06-2006 03:11 PM

Post up some pics... Don't do all of that bragging and leave us to our imaginations!!!

lifesnotfair 03-07-2006 01:22 PM

Soon!
 
No! I will upgrade to 89+ JDM mouldings this week, and upgrade the front end to an 89+, with euro fogs and clear turn signals. I will post pics AFTER that is done. So give me a week or two. I'm hoping it's done by the weekend, but they always take much longer than one wishes.

Burn N' Up 03-11-2006 10:57 AM

So does anyone know if lowering is harder on your shocks?


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