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joel w 11-05-2005 03:03 PM

look at what i got coming
 
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got this and some 3' mandels and pipe coming next week to make my exhaust 3 inch from the turbo back ,like it says under my name... lol

any one use this full 3" t304 stainless downpipe? here are some piks, maybe now suprragirl can make it say 400hp under my name so i have a new goal to shoot for ... lol :bouncy:

1988gte 11-05-2005 06:25 PM

sweet pics where did u get the full 3 inch i see 2.5 everywhere else. do u have a header, manfold with 3 inch exit too.

joel w 11-05-2005 07:20 PM

some guy on ebay is making them,, still using the stock manifold for now. here is another one for sale


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Supra...QQcmdZViewItem

Bullz_EyE 11-05-2005 08:57 PM

I've been watching that item ever since it came out on eBay. Very nice constuction. I'm waiting to see how much money I have leftover from my topend rebuild. I want that thing, it's a good value.

toyota_guru 11-06-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joel williams
some guy on ebay is making them,, still using the stock manifold for now. here is another one for sale


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Supra...QQcmdZViewItem

if your still using the stock manifold, then you have accomplished nothing worth writing about by going 3". A 2.5" down pipe is better suited for the stock manifold. Its the manifold that has the most restriction on the exhaust side, not the down pipe.

joel w 11-06-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by toyota_guru
if your still using the stock manifold, then you have accomplished nothing worth writing about by going 3". A 2.5" down pipe is better suited for the stock manifold. Its the manifold that has the most restriction on the exhaust side, not the down pipe.

the point of the 3 inch downpipe is to allow the waist gate air to mix more smoothly with the exhaust coming from the primary turbo outlet, it removes the massive restriction of the stock 90 elbow, And even if your right, its still worth writing about in my oppinion, that how we learn, have fun with your 2.5 inch dp. good day

toyota_guru 11-06-2005 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joel williams
the point of the 3 inch downpipe is to allow the waist gate air to mix more smoothly with the exhaust coming from the primary turbo outlet, it removes the massive restriction of the stock 90 elbow, And even if your right, its still worth writing about in my oppinion, that how we learn, have fun with your 2.5 inch dp. good day

who said anything about me running a 2.5 dp? i run a 3.5dp with a 2.5wg pipe, my motor puts out 732 hp at the crank. what i was trying to say was, obviously you didn't get it, if you really want to feel a difference in power, for the money, changing the exh manifold will reap more benefits than just changing the dp. going from 2.5 to 3.0dp adds only a few more hp. changing the manifold to a header type you will feel the difference. and feeling the increase with the money spent to feel it, is what its all about. you cant just replace one part and expect a big hp increase, all parts work together, and the manifold is the biggest restriction on the stock exhaust setup. the stock vacuum actuated wg does not open up fast enough to cause that much of a restriction. if you went 3.0 from the turbo back you gain what? 10whp and you still have the main restriction problem still there. me, instead of paying over $500 for 10whp, ynot pay $250 for 20+whp? thats just not my opinion, its from over 15 years of working at toyota dealerships, building lots of toyota motors for racing, not only for myself but for customers in my shop.

joel w 11-06-2005 05:23 PM

well good for you. :bow: . i am running the stock manifold but its not really stock, its been ported out bigtime.same with the head, im not running the stock actuator either, and my turbo is not stock, and who said i paid 500$ ?? sorry if i seem sharp but your first post pissed me off saying its pointless. we all start somewhere. go piss in some one elses cherrios...lol

toyota_guru 11-06-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joel williams
well good for you. :bow: . i am running the stock manifold but its not really stock, its been ported out bigtime.same with the head, im not running the stock actuator either, and my turbo is not stock, and who said i paid 500$ ?? sorry if i seem sharp but your first post pissed me off saying its pointless. we all start somewhere. go piss in some one elses cherrios...lol

lets add this up, how much did it cost to port out the manifold? probably not much, port matching doesn't cost much. how much for the actuator? add in the 3.0 dp i'd say your more than $500. you would feel more power with the stock actuator and a header style manifold for alot less money. what good is 14psi boost when you still have the lag provided by the stock manifold? there's no need to get pissed off, this is a forum, to exchange ideas and advice. even with my years of experience, i still learn something here from time to time. espeacially from supra_girl, her intake idea is fantastic, cant wait till she gets it done and posts some pics. I guess what im trying to say is, don't believe the hp increases these parts manufacturers post about their parts. They are very biased, theyr'e trying to sell parts. my advice is from years of experience and trial and error. ive broken alot of parts trying to find what works, and if i can tell someone how to get power without wasting money on needless parts, i will. sorry i pissed you off, i didn't mean to.

joel w 11-06-2005 06:02 PM

im not really pissed, now! i just didnt like when you said it was not even worth mentioning it here. if me spending coin on useless items helps someone else to save then its totally worth mentioning it whether im right or wrong.. and i did all the work myself. porting and polishing and so im only into it the cost of my time. as for the dual actuator it was 100 but allows me to adjust boost in the cab without a bleeder valve. yes you do make sense i do thank you for your info. i thought about getting a header, but ive heard that they crack to easy and that the gains where minimal without a larger downpipe. so like i said i got to start somewhere... what kind and where did you get yours? are you in the www.7mpower.com top 10? you should be with that hp

toyota_guru 11-06-2005 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joel williams
im not really pissed, now! i just didnt like when you said it was not even worth mentioning it here. if me spending coin on useless items helps someone else to save then its totally worth mentioning it whether im right or wrong.. and i did all the work myself. porting and polishing and so im only into it the cost of my time. as for the dual actuator it was 100 but allows me to adjust boost in the cab without a bleeder valve. yes you do make sense i do thank you for your info. i thought about getting a header, but ive heard that they crack to easy and that the gains where minimal without a larger downpipe. so like i said i got to start somewhere... what kind and where did you get yours? are you in the www.7mpower.com top 10? you should be with that hp

My manifold is an off brand from ssautochrome.com, it holds a t/4 or larger turbo and has a 4" wg flange, ss and ported and polished. with the support tabs welded in this thing and the flange size, i never had a problem with cracking, ive used this manifold on my first 2 high hp 7m's. I've never heard of 7mpower.com, i recently started going on line to see if there are any updated parts or software for this engine, im trying for 800hp reliably for racing, its gotta live. up till now, i used my dealership and track connections for my parts and info. the first two, the cars were totalled at the track, so im building my third with a few changes. my car is not what you call street leagal, i mean, i can drive it on the street if only i know where all the cops are at that time, i race it at Mid Ohio sports track against vetts, porche's, beemers, so its not as nice looking as the ones on 7mpower. cant seem to keep them rookie drivers from hitting me. You are right about needing a larger dp with a new manifold, but, you were gonna get one anyway. the header style manifold really cuts the turbo lag bigtime, so even with 8psi, it feels like 14psi instantaniously.

joel w 11-06-2005 06:39 PM

ya im not going for massive power as of yet, the block is still stock so i dont want to exceed 400hp anytime soon and break it... and i want to keep this ct-26 for now and im not sure ive seen a header that uses the ct-26?

with your numbers, it sounds like you may have one of the fastest mk3's out there. certainly higher than any one at 7mpower although i have heard someone hit 800hp in vegas supra meet in a mk3 this year, but not sure who it was. thanks for the info... impressive...

SupraMan1784 11-07-2005 07:32 PM

with that amount of power toyota guru should be number 1 on that list, correct if im wrong, also as long as you have the dyno pull to prove you have that power you're on that list, but you both are pretty much right... but in two different aspects, guru is right in the racing aspect...where you want to make as much power possible under a budget but pretty much enough power for the track...an off-road vehicle in this sense, as for joel, he's out making a street machine and not interested in pounding at the track at the moment, though i would have to admit...if i were joel's position i would have done the same thing as he did, because to me it makes the most sense for streetability with teh stock turbine and teh stock block, but of course i got rid of all that decision making when i swapped in a 1jz

joel w 11-07-2005 10:44 PM

whew.
 
thank you supraman1784 , i may not have made that clear to the guru that i am making a street ripper and not a track racer. no plans for the track, autocross possably but the new things racing locally are the 125cc shifter karts and they look like alot of fun...

Bullz_EyE 11-08-2005 05:56 AM

Just curious, what's your current elbo and downpipe?

joel w 11-08-2005 06:07 AM

im now running with a stock 90 ell that i ported out removed mass material , and the factory cats have been gutted and sleeved with 2.5" then all cat back is 2.5 mandrel with 3" flowmaster 2 chamber muffler its throughty

1988gte 11-08-2005 07:20 AM

how does the flowmaster sound? any clips? i have been wanting a new muffler

SupraMan1784 11-08-2005 02:52 PM

joel, isnt the flowmaster 3'' the one that sounds deep? like kind of a muscle car kind of tone? cause im lookin to switch out of my apexi n1...since everyone has one...i got a buyer anyways...im thinkin i might go hks carbon fiber....i heard that and i like the sound of htat....or the greddy evo

joel w 11-08-2005 03:28 PM

yeah it does remind me of of my old v8 days a bit, its got a nice rumble to it under throttle. but idles quiet...

my buddy bought it for his 4oo hp 86 dodge shelby charger 2.2l and it was too loud for his rig so he gave it to me. so it may be too loud for my new 3" pipes. ill take a vid if i can figure out how to post it....my cam takes avi's??

SupraMan1784 11-08-2005 06:05 PM

yea cause teh n1 is kind of annoying now hahaha i got some dude in south jersey thats gonna buy it off me, i want something with a smoother sound

joel w 11-09-2005 07:30 AM

1988gte,
i took a video, but wouldnt you know it, my pos camera doesnt play sounds...

lmao,, ill try borrow my sisters cam tomarrow

SupraMan1784 11-09-2005 03:08 PM

nice...i cant wait...im just aching to replace this...its semi stored for the winter at the moment...the car that is...but i drive it on the sunny days

1988gte 11-09-2005 09:57 PM

can't wait i want to see how "throaty" it is:naughty:

joel w 11-10-2005 03:37 AM

posting a vid??
 
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Originally Posted by 1988gte
can't wait i want to see how "throaty" it is:naughty:

i got a cool vid, but its taking a while for google to aprove it? anyone got an easier way to post a vid?

Jrok25supra 11-10-2005 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SupraMan1784
joel, isnt the flowmaster 3'' the one that sounds deep? like kind of a muscle car kind of tone? cause im lookin to switch out of my apexi n1...since everyone has one...i got a buyer anyways...im thinkin i might go hks carbon fiber....i heard that and i like the sound of htat....or the greddy evo

I got a 2.5" inlet/3"dual tip magnaflow muffler on my Ford Probe GTS with stock headers and a gutted cat and it has a deep rumble. Sounds great.

joel w 11-10-2005 05:01 AM

vid/sound
 
finally here we go.. heheheh this is my old current 2.5" piping w/ 3 inch 2 chamber flowmaster

http://www.zippyvideos.com/2301672052163616/imgp4822/

sorry it was dark here. but sounds good...

ryemann32 11-10-2005 05:13 AM

the best downpipe outhere that isn t a ddp is the cooleeze downpipe huge top end of pipe it eliminates the elbow and has a great growl i m waiting to put in my new header have my external wastegate turbo and whole new ic kit on the way going from 300hp to around 450 i ll take some pics when i get all in and show u guys some power

joel w 11-10-2005 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryemann32
the best downpipe outhere that isn t a ddp is the cooleeze downpipe huge top end of pipe it eliminates the elbow and has a great growl i m waiting to put in my new header have my external wastegate turbo and whole new ic kit on the way going from 300hp to around 450 i ll take some pics when i get all in and show u guys some power

do it man
ya i like the BIC downpipe also, but this was more in my $$ range and it had the flex connector. didnt say it was the best, just the one i happen to order..

1988gte 11-10-2005 10:46 PM

me like u got me sold:bow:

Bullz_EyE 11-14-2005 09:43 AM

I recently contacted the seller about this item. He still has 3 available. You can contact him if you have an eBay account. Or serious inquiries that have Paypal accounts may PM me for the sellers information.

joel w 11-14-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullz_EyE
I recently contacted the seller about this item. He still has 3 available. You can contact him if you have an eBay account. Or serious inquiries that have Paypal accounts may PM me for the sellers information.

ya russ seems like a stand up guy.. he said he designed the original defcon dp yrs ago hes now the mid-west distributor for Titan Motorsports fyi

Bullz_EyE 11-14-2005 09:12 PM

So what did your butt dyno tell you after you installed the DP? I expect considerable gains and an increase in boost response.

joel w 11-14-2005 09:32 PM

lol , should be here thursday. have it installed this weekend if the muffler shows up.

TRAFIK 11-15-2005 06:17 AM

man you 7mgte guys are way too angry... crack down the boost... lol

mkIII baby.................. ( what I had one back in the day)..

joel w 11-15-2005 04:20 PM

ya i was having a bad day, im back on my meds now..feeling MuCh BeTtEr NoW. lol just kiddin.
sry...

SupraMan1784 11-15-2005 05:30 PM

its ok...it was just a heated discussion where they were just trying to give each other ideas, wut would u call a 1jz guy? super cool...thats what

joel w 01-15-2006 05:17 AM

by the way, installed this months ago, bullzeye reminded me i never updated this,

The best money to power gain mod in my oppinion...(besides a cheap $25 boost controller) but i installed full flow 3" all the way back at the same time.. I should have bought this first..

Bullz_EyE 01-15-2006 05:46 AM

Great stuff, I anticipate similar gains. :)

joel w 01-15-2006 05:58 AM

also it raised the boost by 3lbs, i was at 12 and it went to 15 after install.
comes alive now at 4k and pulls to 6+ rpms hard like it never has before...:bouncy: .


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