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lmmr74 08-10-2011 12:46 PM

Additinal Electrical Fan
 
Hello, i just recently bought an 1989 3.0i Turbo Supra, and i was wondering if it is possible to add an "extra" electrical fan on the radiator. The car has a stock mechanicall fan that is allways working since you start the engine, so, is it possible to have 2 fans at the same time colling the radiator, the mechanicall one plus the electric??

Thanks in advance for your help!

Luis

Mk3FirstCar-Mike 08-10-2011 07:01 PM

You can get a reversed electrical fan to put in front of the radiator, but if you have a clutch fan that is always running, it's not going to help all that much. In my opinion, your best bet would be to take the clutch fan off and put an electrical fan on the back of the radiator. I'm assuming that you're looking to squeeze every drop of power out of your engine. Doing this will make it so the fan will only run at low speeds or at idle, unless your engine begins overheating at high speeds ( Which it most certainly should not if your radiator is working properly).

lmmr74 08-10-2011 09:50 PM

Additional electrical fan
 
Thanks for the tip. But if i keep the mechanical fan plus the reversed electric fan on the front of the radiator, will i get an extra cooling efect? Will it avoid the engine to overheat on heavy traffic?

Thks again in advance for the help!

Greetings from Lisbon!:drool:

907mge 08-11-2011 12:17 AM

I have had my supra in traffic on hot days with the ac on and have not had any overheating problems. If you are having a problem with overheating you most likely have a problem causing it. The supra is a modern car and was deigned from factory to be a daily driver. Also electric fans are a power gain only when the electric fan is not running since it will just transfer the load to the alternator.

El Supracabras 08-11-2011 03:41 AM

The stock fan is sufficient on the GTE if the clutch is good and you at least use the shroud. There are all types of electric fan options if that's the route you want to go. There are ready to bolt in kits that cost some coin, some universal kits that cost less but require some driveway engineering to fit and there is the junk yard route. Measure your radiator and its clearances then go to the junk yard and find one that fits.
As mentioned before, if you are overheating in traffic there is likely something wrong with the cooling system. The time and money would be better spent checking the condition of the cooling system components before replacing the fan set up.

cre 08-11-2011 07:06 AM

I agree with the others that the stock fan should be more than sufficient. However, do note that the GTE already has a supplimental electric fan mounted between the radiator and a/c condenser.... not including the one or two small aux fans next to the mechanical fan. If your car is GTE and the A/C fan is still in place you could bypass it's relay so that it's on full time, but you're wasting energy doing to... the greater the electric draw on the alternator the greater it's resistence and you lose more power.

Fix the real problem is what I recommend.

lmmr74 08-11-2011 12:32 PM

Thank you all for your replies!

I am checking the entire cooling system, i changed the water pump, the thermostat valve, i will also check the radiator just to make sure it's not blocked or something. What other components should i check?

El Supracabras 08-11-2011 12:45 PM

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All of the hoses. Make sure the system is completely purged of air, the fan clutch is good, the shroud is present, check for blockage between the radiator and a/c condenser also if front of the condenser. The 7MGTE cooling system is complex and has many points of potential failure but in good condition it is capable of handling some serious heat.

lmmr74 08-11-2011 02:07 PM

Just one more thing...how can i check if the fan clutch is working fine??

El Supracabras 08-14-2011 02:25 PM

I tried to search for a video or link with instructions but all I could find were idiots sticking things in the fan while it was running to see if it would stop. I can't recommend those methods. While the engine is cold (and off!), the fan should give resistance to turning by hand. You can check it for side to side wobble, there should be very little to none. You may have to remove it to check if the fluid inside has leaked out around the coil in the front, unless you can squeeze between the fan and radiator to look at it.
If you end up taking it off, and are unsure of how old it is, just replace it. It is pretty cheap and will eliminate it as the cause of your temp issues.

Green7mgte 08-14-2011 06:09 PM

from what I remember from past posts that there are two types of fans you can install.. thermostat controlled ones and electrical switch types.. I believe the general consensus was the thermostat controlled ones are the way to go.
Am I close on this. It's been awhile.

cre 08-15-2011 02:07 AM

If his existing fan is working then adding another isn't going to fix anything.

The fan clutch should get harder to spin the warmer it is (with the engine off). If it's as easy to spin when cold as it is when the engine is hot then it's bad. It should never spin completely freely nor refuse to be moved by hand.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...enance/1772922
http://www.ehow.com/how_5086903_test-fan-clutch.html

There's also the infamous newspaper diagnosis technique but I'm not going to advise that myself... You can find it on YouTube. It's safe enough unless you're an idiot or happen to get startled and throw your hand into a moving belt...

lmmr74 08-28-2011 08:13 PM

One final question, i want to bleed my cooling system (when i turn off the engine i hear a bubling sound coming from the radiator)...how should i do it? Is there any tutorials available??

Thanks in advance for your help!

pandrade 08-29-2011 04:00 PM

i got a 87 turbo which came whith one electrical fan and the heavy mechanical fan, so i went to the junk yard and found a N/A 89 i belive and took the shroud and the twin electrical fans, i spliced a few wires, swaped the shrouds and now the fans work great. its was cheap easy and thankfully the 89 shroud can retrofit the 87

pandrade 08-29-2011 04:02 PM

mine does the same thing as well. i put one of thes pressure caps whith the little pressure relive tabs on it when ever i release the pressure my overflow tank starts to gurgle and bubble. Doesent seem to hurt it any just wierd

icey756 10-22-2011 06:12 PM

Here is how to burp ur cooling system. Its in the FAQ. When i joined the forum i read almost all the FAQ's. It gives you alot of good info believe it or not.

http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/...r-bubbles.html

This is the way that i know of on how to "bleed" ur system

pandrade 10-30-2011 02:10 AM

Okay thanks for the info. Ill check out the faq's


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