Blown headgasket?

Awyman18 · 04-13-2011, 11:59 PM

ok thanks for the help, i think im going to order some arp studs, and order a ishino head gasket kit for it. I heard ishino made the originals for toyota sooo thought i should go with that

87hilux7mge · 04-14-2011, 06:15 AM

if you plan on keeping boost stock, the ARP rod bolts are way enough for you. the problem with the studs is you cant just drop the head on and go cuz the nuts dont fit through the bolt holes, stuff gets in the way.

i have studs but i got a stupid good deal. they just take more finesse than the bolts. as for gasket kits, any full kit will work. personally fel-pro has good ones, and their hg's meet or exceed factory specs (definitely wanted) and are quality controlled.

go with the bolts unless you get a good deal, and when you install them, feed them through the head, then thread the nuts almost all the way down, then carefully set the head down, and use an allen key to thread the studs into the block until they are snugged. then tighten the nuts down to spec.

bolts are much easier, and in your case more than enough, just my opinion

Awyman18 · 04-14-2011, 06:25 PM

yea i heard they are lol but we will see, depending on the price..like if its only a $10-$20 difference i might as well get the studs u kno? But ive heard fel-pro is good too, i just need to do some research...ive been so busy and the weather has been so perfect to take that targa top off and go cruising so im pumped to get it fixed. thanks for all the replies!

Ranma · 04-14-2011, 08:02 PM

I would rather not have "studs" in my Supra

Would it really make a difference for me? My guy has a gentle life and the fastest he goes is on the turnpike, lets call it 75 to 85 mph and I usually shift around 3500 rpm.

Oh should I torque the head bolts? The dealer put the reconditioned head on my guy and have no ideal what they did.

87hilux7mge · 04-16-2011, 09:06 AM

studs are overkill for n/a. i got them like i said, for a smoking deal, and i plan to boost later. bolts are more than sufficient 99% of the time, if not stock bolts, then ARP bolts.

a reconditioned head should have been milled, new cams/reground cams, new valves, retainers, keepers, springs, buckets, shims and all checked to spec.

call them an ask them what their reconditioned head includes. if they cant tell you everything or shrug their shoulders, be questionable.

Green7mgte · 04-16-2011, 09:14 PM

yes headbolts need to be re torqued after a few heat cycles.. or maybe your shop over torqued them to start with.. don't think thats the best idea.

Ranma · 04-17-2011, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green7mgte

yes headbolts need to be re torqued after a few heat cycles.. or maybe your shop over torqued them to start with.. don't think thats the best idea.

This was the toyota dealer who fracked up so much, did a lot of freebes to make up for it but still

04-14-2011, 06:15 AM	#2
87hilux7mge walbro fp Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: spokane Posts: 479	if you plan on keeping boost stock, the ARP rod bolts are way enough for you. the problem with the studs is you cant just drop the head on and go cuz the nuts dont fit through the bolt holes, stuff gets in the way. i have studs but i got a stupid good deal. they just take more finesse than the bolts. as for gasket kits, any full kit will work. personally fel-pro has good ones, and their hg's meet or exceed factory specs (definitely wanted) and are quality controlled. go with the bolts unless you get a good deal, and when you install them, feed them through the head, then thread the nuts almost all the way down, then carefully set the head down, and use an allen key to thread the studs into the block until they are snugged. then tighten the nuts down to spec. bolts are much easier, and in your case more than enough, just my opinion __________________ 87 toyota 4x4 single cab short box pickup, 7MGZE.

04-14-2011, 08:02 PM	#4
Ranma 12psi boost Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Claremore, OK Posts: 326 Blog Entries: 10	studs :p I would rather not have "studs" in my Supra Would it really make a difference for me? My guy has a gentle life and the fastest he goes is on the turnpike, lets call it 75 to 85 mph and I usually shift around 3500 rpm. Oh should I torque the head bolts? The dealer put the reconditioned head on my guy and have no ideal what they did. __________________ 1986 Mk III MA70 7MGE Targa Top 5 Speed Stock Exhaust

04-16-2011, 09:06 AM	#5
87hilux7mge walbro fp Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: spokane Posts: 479	studs are overkill for n/a. i got them like i said, for a smoking deal, and i plan to boost later. bolts are more than sufficient 99% of the time, if not stock bolts, then ARP bolts. a reconditioned head should have been milled, new cams/reground cams, new valves, retainers, keepers, springs, buckets, shims and all checked to spec. call them an ask them what their reconditioned head includes. if they cant tell you everything or shrug their shoulders, be questionable. __________________ 87 toyota 4x4 single cab short box pickup, 7MGZE.

04-16-2011, 09:14 PM	#6
Green7mgte Supra Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Green-Ohio Posts: 1,297	yes headbolts need to be re torqued after a few heat cycles.. or maybe your shop over torqued them to start with.. don't think thats the best idea. __________________ 92 Ma71 7mGTE Auto. SafcII Supra FAQ Supra MKIII FAQ Classified Section guidelines :

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04-13-2011, 11:59 PM	#1
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	ok thanks for the help, i think im going to order some arp studs, and order a ishino head gasket kit for it. I heard ishino made the originals for toyota sooo thought i should go with that

04-14-2011, 06:25 PM	#3
Awyman18 3" Exhaust Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: columbus Posts: 151	yea i heard they are lol but we will see, depending on the price..like if its only a $10-$20 difference i might as well get the studs u kno? But ive heard fel-pro is good too, i just need to do some research...ive been so busy and the weather has been so perfect to take that targa top off and go cruising so im pumped to get it fixed. thanks for all the replies!