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superwhite 12-02-2010 04:21 PM

head bolt idea
 
I dont have a blown head gasket but i was thinking of either replacing the head bolts one at a time or simply re-torquing the factory ones to a higher spec. Can this be done and if so what bolt order should I go in?

Green7mgte 12-02-2010 04:24 PM

consult your local tsrm for bolt pattern removal.. heres the link
Cylinder Head

91ma70 12-02-2010 11:15 PM

I wouldn't recommend simply replacing the bolts one at a time because you should chase the threads on the block to get a proper reading on the torque setting. I would have the head off to chase..

btwilson86 12-03-2010 04:53 AM

Not to mention that taking them out 1 at a time (leaving all of the other bolts torqued, as I understand it) will likely cause head warping, as well as destroying the gasket. Like Green7mgte said, follow the TSRM in that link he gave you.

Green7mgte 12-06-2010 06:07 AM

oh god no don't take them out one at a time...

remove them all in the correct ORDER in 2 passes.. that means loosen them in one pass.. then remove them in the other.

put your bolts in with a helicoil or something of the like and torque them to spec. few warm up / cool down cycles later torque them to spec again..



question..
with a helicoil or the like, is retorqueing still necessary?

MA70-3.0GT 12-12-2010 05:03 PM

why helicoil? didn't see anything about stripped threads???


Anyway I'd say don't do anything if it's not blown. (and certainly DON'T take the bolts out one at a time or in any other order than by the book!!!) Just wait till the first signs of it going (and it will eventually) and then follow the tsrm replacement guide but either use upgraded bolts/studs following their torquing instructions, or use new stock bolts (which are fine) just following the upgraded torque level & not the original 58lb rubbish :)

And when done, remember to burp the cooling system unless you enjoyed it so much you wanna do it all over again next week... :eek3:

Green7mgte 12-12-2010 10:46 PM

why helicoil.. so they don't back out. or something else along those lines.
don't see why thats such an awful idea.
here.. buy concrete lag bolts and shove those babys in there.. they won't back out. hows that for bad ideas.

there is no problem with re torquing your head bolts. if you want to do it, just do it correctly. waiting untill you see signs of a BHG to start applying fixes is two steps backwards in theory and in pocket. if re torquing them now will save you failure in the future i see no reason not to do it, besides the guy above me saying not to.. =)

907mge 12-13-2010 12:53 AM

Helicoils don't stop bolts from coming back out. They are for when the threads are no longer useable and you still want to use the same bolt size as the original. They work well but the hole must be drilled out larger.

It is hard to say though without the milage and age to see if the hg may have already been done. Since a 20 plus year old car can get passed around alot over the years.

Green7mgte 12-13-2010 08:34 PM

yes im well aware of what they are. just stating they are a solution if your having problems with your bolts backing out..

so uh :uh: . yea if you can get away with the same size bolt do it.. but if you have to retap them to a larger size just be slow and careful with it. make sure your bit is level for god sakes.

is the op even reading this thread any longer?

907mge 12-13-2010 09:26 PM

It can suck if you have to go with a larger size though if the hole for the bolt in the head is not large enough for the new bolt. I unfortunatly learned alittle on the subject when my brother and I did the hg on a 93 cavalier and snaped off 2 head bolts in the block.

I don't think the op is on here anymore. It seems we get quite a bit of new people that post a few times and dissapear.


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