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MyfirstCar 08-03-2010 12:32 AM

Neeed Helpp..
 
SO i jus found out the worst news i could possibly get today and that is my copression is low and my head gasket blown. I jus bought this car last week. i guess thats what i get gor 1200 even for that i got ripped off but oh well now. So i need to know what i should do its my first car . I want to work on it and stuff tho and i kno its gonna be quite alot of money to do so. but i think i can do it. What do u guys think i should do?

Green7mgte 08-03-2010 12:35 AM

shoulda joined a little sooner.. BHG is the #1 cause of supras being sold..

factory defect with low torque specs on the HG..

fix it and torque it to 75 or take it to a shop and have them fix it.. make sure you torque it to 75..

MA70-3.0GT 08-03-2010 01:16 PM

Are you sure it's definitely blown & you're not just being told that by someone who knows you'll hear it's common and just take their word for it?

Not saying it's unlikely as it is the main cause of 7M engined cars being unloaded onto inexperienced hands. Who did your compression check, was the car thoroughly warm, all the spark plugs removed and at WOT and with as-new (and correct size) battery when the check was completed? All these factors can give a false low reading.

Also are there any other symptoms, there will usually be one or more symptoms that are a dead giveaway & if you search the site you should be able to more definitely diagnose/rule out the BHG.

That said, it's not the end of the world if it is blown and providing you repair according with the sound advice from trusted forum members here in conjunction with the TSRM http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Librar...spx?S=FI&P=101 you should have no further worries once it's done & correctly torqued down to 75lb

EDIT-: Also, post your exact model, year, US/EUR/JDM spec, engine type (found on front right of timing belt cover) in your signature as this will help people give you more specific advice as you progress with the car. ;)

MyfirstCar 08-04-2010 07:19 AM

questions that need answers??
 
So when i was first buying the car the enngine sounded bad cuz when i turned it on it made lik a pop every 5 seconds and when it was being drivin it would occaisilly nudge u while driving (lik u keep gasing and breaking) , and the reason why it does that supposely is cuz the catalyic converter got messed up cuz it almost got jacked by someone. so do u think it might be the engine thats bad or the CC that makes sound that it makes and does what it does?? also i got it looked at and it said my compression is low do u think the catalyic converter has a part in that too??

Travis89Turbo 08-04-2010 11:25 AM

Your CC wont cause low compression. Sounds like the head gasket is on it way out. More then common on these cars. If you are getting it for a great price could be fixed for id say min. 2k with you doin all the labor.... my 2 cents

MA70-3.0GT 08-04-2010 11:58 AM

In relation to the OP's question about the cat, no it cannot affect compression tests (if done correctly with all plugs removed) as it's simply part of the exhaust & the compression test is within the engine's cylinders.

a crushed cat could block the exhaust & cause loss of power but I think we need to go into a little more detail of what symptoms you're getting & also check back on the things I previously mentioned.

What were the figures you were given for the comp. tests, was there a set of "dry" and "wet" figures given?

Engine, N/A? Turbo? Model year? US/JDM etc? please help us to help you ;)

MA70-3.0GT 08-04-2010 12:02 PM

please try and keep things to one thread for the moment, admittedly the original did start to get hijacked but cre has seen to that & I'm trying to offer you help in that original thread, but you need to hit this methodically & not post different threads for each (possibly linked) symptom... :wavey:

MyfirstCar 08-05-2010 01:24 AM

Is it Possible???
 
The repair tech recommends a new engine, is it possible if i take my engine out and work on it and see whats up with it i could fix it? He said when he turned it on that it was rough and like i said before in a earlier thread when u turn on the car it makes a backfire noise and drives like ur beaking and pressing the gas (like thiers bumps in the road)

MA70-3.0GT 08-07-2010 11:29 AM

perhaps we could ditch this "tech" of yours that seems to want to sell you things (mainly engines!!!) and maybe do what I suggested more than once, I.E. hit the problems METHODICALLY and keep to one thread so we can get a hint of what progress/otherwise is being made. And tell us what car you have for a start.

Sorry, last time. :outahere:

cre 08-07-2010 05:50 PM

I've merged one more of the OP's threads into this one. I'll go through this one and delete anything I think is repetitive or not necessary.

MyFirstCar.... Keep your posts in the same original thread if you're still working on the same problem. Otherwise people will have no idea what you're talking about or what you've already done or asked.

Supra Saiyan 08-07-2010 06:11 PM

Dude, if it's a headgasket problem. Sounds like it is. I asked some shops around here what they would charge to do it. $1100ish!! Thats not bad if your not doing it yourself. That also included the ARP head studs, cometic metal head gasket, head getting machined! An the most work would be you getting it to the shop.! The shops that quoted me where not the BIG CHAIN shops. Just small, local, TUNER shops! Hope this helps. Find a reputable tuner shop and ask them about pricing out a BHG. Should be right around the price above.. If I remember correctly (5hrs - 6hrs of work to do the head gasket)..

APR HEAD STUDS - $130 -----> CLICK HERE
COMETIC METAL HEADGASKET - $180/$220 -----> CLICK HERE
MACHINE HEAD UP - $100
SHOP PER-HR - $90 (8HR of work)

TOTAL - $1130/$1170

cre 08-07-2010 06:30 PM

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you've got an incomplete and rather distorted image of the world in your head...

The cost for a shop to do a HG is going to vary GREATLY depending on the local market. There's not one shop out here that would make that quote that I trust to open a jar for me.... that and i have very little faith in tuner shops.

Another problem with just phoning up is that most shops just estimate it "by the book".... then things start breaking, they realize the block has to be pulled and machined due to warpage and pitting (or worse they just leave it as is and the HG blows again in a year). It's a 20+ year old engine which has most likely been beaten and abused its entire life.

Green7mgte 08-07-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre (Post 86611)
It's a 20+ year old engine which has most likely been beaten and abused its entire life.

7m, the redheaded stepchild of the sport car community.

"What were the figures you were given for the comp. tests, was there a set of "dry" and "wet" figures given?

Engine, N/A? Turbo? Model year? US/JDM etc? please help us to help you ;) "

the rough running like your driving on a road with a bunch of holes cound be caused by any number of items.. bad cracked air lines.. fuel pump.. spark plugs. leads..
what codes are you tossing? see the faq to diagnose codes.

clarence jenkins 08-08-2010 12:22 AM

clarence jenkins
 
dont look at this as a bad thing,,you have one of the most sought after cars on the road today and to have a real paformance car, you have to know your paformance car. my advice to you is to get a book and breake that engin down and learn it as you go. it wont cost you that much if you do it yourself and youl know as well as understand the parts as you go. now when your done and you turn that key and she leaves under her own power,,,and she aswers to your expectations, then youl know that you looked into her heart and saw first hand, what shes made of. her thanks to you will be that latenight run where she paforms like a champ, and you come away feeling like you two are one...i know,,,iv been there. good luck and youl be ok

cre 08-08-2010 04:33 AM

The big concern here is the swapping in of another USED engine... without rebuilding it you have NO IDEA what you're going to end up with. Swapping in a used engine without rebuilding it first is just stupid... and since you're going to be rebuilding an engine, might as well save the money on the second one and rebuild the one you have.

Supra Saiyan 08-08-2010 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarence jenkins (Post 86617)
dont look at this as a bad thing,,you have one of the most sought after cars on the road today and to have a real paformance car, you have to know your paformance car. my advice to you is to get a book and breake that engin down and learn it as you go. it wont cost you that much if you do it yourself and youl know as well as understand the parts as you go. now when your done and you turn that key and she leaves under her own power,,,and she aswers to your expectations, then youl know that you looked into her heart and saw first hand, what shes made of. her thanks to you will be that latenight run where she paforms like a champ, and you come away feeling like you two are one...i know,,,iv been there. good luck and youl be ok

Are you a petafile? No j/k j/k.. I TOTALLY AGREE!!

cre 08-08-2010 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supra Saiyan (Post 86624)
Are you a petafile? No j/k j/k.. I TOTALLY AGREE!!

I'm just going to start deleting your posts...











Seriously though.... W T F ? Over 20yo is MILES from pedo status....

Supra Saiyan 08-08-2010 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cre (Post 86627)
I'm just going to start deleting your posts...




Seriously though.... W T F ? Over 20yo is MILES from pedo status....

I'm confused.. Are you serious, or you just joshing me?


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