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batmmannn 05-14-2010 01:10 AM

Supra died on test drive
 
Well I got the 86 going and did a little light test drive it was doing OK with old gas and the like and had been resurrected after many years of sitting. I was doing about 20mph just driving around my neighborhood taking it easy on it when it suddenly sputtered and died. I walked to a friends house we came back and jumped it cause I had a weak battery in it and it didn't fire at all not even a pop.

Kept trying to start it and then the motor started turning fast like it had no plugs in it at all while trying to start it. Like just then it lost all compression. I pulled it back home and parked it.

Any ideas? Broken timing belt? Clogged fuel filter? Loose plugs? Any idea why it would suddenly start turning over very fast under starter power like it had no compression? Blown head? Weird! Doesn't make sense that all the rings could go bad at once. If the timing belt broke would it spin fast under the starter load? I had oil pressure and it was running at the correct temp.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

907mge 05-14-2010 01:18 AM

As long as that thing sat in the woods. I would start by rebuilding the engine since you are going to have problem after problem. Every hose, vaccuum line and gasket has a very high chance of leaking.

batmmannn 05-14-2010 01:26 AM

Curious
 
It sat in the driveway not actually in the woods. I just read that an engine spinning like no compression during attempted starting could mean a broken timing belt. but I heard nothing like the valves being slapped. Is th 7mGE a non interference engine? If a timing belt breaks does that roach the head? Thanks

907mge 05-14-2010 01:52 AM

It should be fine since it is a non inter. motor. That does make sense since half your valves are probably open. It most likely broke since the gears are rusted and the belt is dry rotten. It won't be fun doing the timing belt since you have to get the drive pulley off first that was torqued to 195lbs and it probably is now rusted in place. I'd start by pulling off the upper timing cover to take a look at the belt. I think it has about 6 bolts in it.

batmmannn 05-14-2010 02:15 AM

I hear ya
 
The crank bolt I usually let the starter take care of that, wedge a braking bar and then hit the starter to pop the bolt loose I figure you are right. I did my other Supras timing belt a few years ago and it is also an MK3 so if I had to do anything at least I know how to do this repair. I was just looking for a thread here to refresh my memory. I have a manual but it sucks it covers too many years. All I really need to know is how to line up the cams and the bottom. I guess I will start on it tomorrow. Probably exactly what happened. I was planning on doing this anyway.

I WAS SO RELIEVED when I read that the motor is non interference. Whew! This will be about another $50 buck max out of my pocket which isn't too bad.

Why did they ever go to belts anyway? Seems stupid when chains are so much more reliable.

907mge 05-14-2010 02:54 AM

Belts are generally said to be more quite and less expensive. My 2000 celica has a chain though. Everything you need is in here....


http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/

batmmannn 05-14-2010 03:04 AM

Allrighty Then!
 
Hey Thanks! This is great! A manual on line pint out the page you need and rock on! Get too much grease on the sheet just print a new one....AWESOME!

batmmannn 05-14-2010 03:16 AM

Radiator?
 
Do you usually pull the radiator when doing a timing belt? I always have but this manual does not mention it. I guess I just like having the extra room to work. Also it keeps the radiator safe from slipped wrenchs or the like. Do you do yours with or without the radiator in place?

cre 05-14-2010 04:04 AM

Pull the oil cap off and shine a light in while someone cranks the engine. You'll see the #1 intake cam lobe moving if the belt is intact.

batmmannn 05-14-2010 04:20 AM

Great Idea
 
Thats even easier than pulling the top cover! Thanks!


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