1992 vs 92.5
 

what is the differences between the 1992 mk3 and the 1992.5?
does it even exist? I cant turn up any references.

AFAIK, there was no '92.5 designation in any market that I know of. IIRC, the MKIII was still produced for the first half of the '93 model year, but didn't make it outside of Japan... might have made it to Europe, looking around real quick I found a couple British owners' pics of their "'93 MKIIIs". The first year MKIV was the '93.5... perhaps that's what you're thinking of.

It's just like the '86 MKII and '86.5 MKIII.... except we saw both here.

would explain why i couldent find any results.

Alright heres to clarify, what people are probably calling the early year 93 was actually the 92.5 which came with JDM style front blinkers(clear) sunroof, and a few other non performance changes, I'll find more info on this later when I have time.

Hmm I think this was a regular 92 change but the speakers covers are a lot bigger then the older models ;p

Paging Jeff Lange... Paging Jeff Lange...

(you guys probably don't know of him, so it's kind of wasted...)

Anyway, I sent a message to Jeff... the guy is a human Supra encyclopedia (and other cars as well) it's creepy. I once heard that he actually was the brains behind the Supra altogether and he directed the design and built of the MKIII from the womb! :D

No, really, the guy knows way too much about these cars and works for a Toyota dealership in Canada (so he can look up what Toyota's internal publications called it... if they even did call it anything different).



JDM style blinkers? The JDM blinkers for the MKIII were amber.... unless this was a special change for half a year. The only signals with clear in them that came from the factory, AFAIK, were for the European markets and only half was clear (they look really cool, too).


I hope Jeff emails back soon, I really wat to know what the deal is now too. So, Green, where did you come across a 92.5 (or whatever) anyway? It's an almost unheard of topic.

I'll post a picture of mine, they are all from the factory parts actually and they are completely clear ^^
Assuming im technologically capable... how do I post here? I have to host somewhere first? ;;

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...0f8ce545bb.jpg
wish the rims were still that pretty ;;

Go into the advanced editor and you'll see a paperclip icon at the top. Click on it and a window will open up for you to upload images, then you close it and click again and select the picture from the list.

Post the Toyota part numbers (it's on all toyota lenses)... I've got a set of full clears too, but they're not Toyota.


EDIT: Yeah, those aren't OEM. They're the same as mine... They make them for pre89 and 89+... same company makes front and rear side markers too.

K I'll look for the numbers on it when my girl gets home.

Dude, it was a joke... they're not made by Toyota and weren't stock:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT

I own some too.

EDIT: Manufacturer DEPO Auto Parts Ind. Co., Ltd. of Taiwan. What do yours say? Also, I don't believe real Japanese OEM signals would be marked as being DOT/SAE compliant. Do yours have the same info on them? Part numbers on my signals are: 01-312-1643R-C and 01-312-1643L-C, didn't see it on any of my side markers so I presume it may be on the back side and I don't fell like pulling them off to check.

EDIT2: They make OEM replacement units and they make "Tuning" lenses. http://www.depo.com.tw/asp/pdf/P_TY_CELICA.pdf No idea why they're listed in the catalog for the '94-'97 Celica. See the bottom of the catalog page and you will see "All items shown in this catalogue are not original parts."

The stock units I have are labeled "Toyota" and "Japan".

Wikipedia Japan, the auto sales sites I managed to get Google to translate, Toyota's parts system (thanks Jeff!) all list a 1993 JZA70. I searched Google Japan for JZA70 1993 and for JZA70 1992.5. No Japanese hits for 1992.5 but plenty for 1993. TRD Japan shows it having been sold until 1993.5.

So.... I'm sticking with calling it a '93. It doesn't really matter anyway, they were only RHD, JDM, are rare as hell and it's unlikely you'll ever see one in the States.


EDIT: Oh, and Green, no differences (thanks again to Jeff).

I couldn't make out the numbers on it but they definitely say toyota then the numbers I was able to make out are: 14-1?? SAE 1? ?? ????

Shit the depo ones are a lot more blingin, I need some of those.

Post more pics... they're aftermarket. I had Jeff look up the part numbers... no changes. Also, all Toyota part numbers are formatted XXXXX-XXXXX, I don't know how far back that convention goes, but it started well before the MKIII and it's still what they use today. If they say "Toyota" on them I don't know who made them. If they're retroreflective they're probably made by a guy who goes by Wolfie out of the UK. He makes some based on a mold of genuine Toyota lenses; They will have a Toyota part number on them from the casting (unless he removed it in which case it would be a big blank). Mind posting some closeups of yours? To me yours look just like the DEPO lenses I've got.

Wolfie's will have the following part numbers:
81521-14332
81511-14332

Seriously, if they were a stock unit people would be ordering for them instead of special ordering the half clear Euro style or paying even more for the lenses from Wolfie which requires replacing the clear lens of the stock housing with the new, clear lens.

Wolfie's lenses: (Price was around $150USD, OEM Euro and JDM are available for under $100USD)
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...rontincase.jpg


I have to add that I really prefer Wolfie's lenses to the "diamond-clear" after market lenses.

Hmm you might be right then, it says toyota on it but the numbers are'nt in the correct sequence to be toyota parts, its really hard to make out the numbers but mine dont look anything like those. Those look way better then mine lol. With that said now im interested and sitting here searching all kinds of shit... Going to call the guy who sold it to me tmw to clarify a few things.

HAHAHAHAHA don't own me for this, says "toyota replacement", not toyota ;;
which explains why the numbering is ??-???? ?? ???? er whatever, my camera wont take any good pictures due to lighting right now, I'll take some tmw when there is more light... on a side note... I GOT THE RADIATOR!!! for that aftermarket radiator post I had up last week!

And yeah I'm really digging the wolfies lenses. I believe the lights I had were also made from a toyota mold... just not as good as wolfies. Mine look a lot duller compared to the two you posted already.

Ummm... okay... what's the story?

Hey, what's the production date on your car? I THINK year models are Sept. through August. So Sept. '89 - Aug. '90 would be a '90... I'm not positive though, but i think that was it.

The style of turn signals we have are commonly called JDM, but it's just because "JDM" has become so damned trendy.

BTW, a '92 is still a hell of a catch... quite rare (at least in North America).

Ahhh alright heres what he said, its late year 92 MA71 model car said he bought it brand new from the manufacturer in october of 93, which leaves me to believe its just the limited edition 92 with a sunroof or a 93 as you stated before.

Also asked him about the lights, said it came the way he sold it to me aside from suspension and steering wheel

One other difference I noticed from my 90 to my girls 92-93 is... heres stock weighed a hell of a lot less then mine


mines somewhere around 3,654 her's is 3,389, you happen to know anything about that?
I dont really see the difference in the car of that much weight? maybe they forgot to get out of the car when they weighed mine lol

No "Limited" or "Limited Edition" models came to North America... I don't think there were any special edition MA70's at all except for the Group A and Turbo A, but again RHD and JDM only, IIRC. I'm pretty sure there was a limited JZA70.

Factory sunroof was available as of '91. The interior was the same too, there was a change in the grey interior, but that's it.

As for the weight thing, what are the other differences? Turbo vs N/A and hardtop (even with sunroof) vs targa make for a decent difference. The sawblade style rims are also heavy as hell.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...55582d23da.jpg
90-targa with 17" gram lights manual boost controlled 12lbs boost 3" exh from turbo! thats all it has

red one is 92-sunroof on megan racing track series coilovers soon to have a new radiator and tranny cooler
yeah my camera sucks at night

Black one has had the stock front bumper bar replaced with a lighter one built using scraps from a tube car at school

i wish i had your resourcing reach cre.