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dcrusupra 08-11-2005 08:16 PM

I need an answer desperately. My car wont start with the key. It sounds like a dead battery but when i jump it nothing happens. I've checked the position of the jumper cables each time. It doesnt sound like the starter either. It just cranks really slow. But later on today ill be on my way to get a push button starter so i can link it directly to the solenoid. Any explanations would be great. By the way, ive only had this 87 non-turbo supra for about 3 weeks now. I payed 1000 for it. It looked like crap when i first got it but TLC and cash made it look much better.

SupraMan1784 08-11-2005 09:26 PM

check the ignition box and the ignition cables...see if they are ok..check your ocnnections, if it cranks real slow...sounds like a dead battery...but if not check the ignition see how it is

ddmcse 08-11-2005 10:13 PM

i'm not sure about the N/A but the spec'd turbo battery is a very high amps battery (cranking power)
the service manual says it's the battery or the starter if it's not wire related

monkihead 08-12-2005 01:58 AM

check ur grounds. i had this happen to me. one of my grounds under the car broke rendering my car unstartable. or you can just do the push button...i did that to... :D

dcrusupra 08-12-2005 03:28 AM

Well thank you. I'll try all. I'm changing the starter on monday either way. It's pretty nasty looking. And it's an 87 and parts will need to be changed sooner or later anyway. So i'll check on everything. And i'll post what i found for people with the same problem. And have you heard this new phenomenon that it takes $172 at pep boys for labor to replace the starter. Bit of a rip off for a simple to moderate task.

Poodles 08-12-2005 03:41 AM

check the positive lead from the battery to the starter, if it's frayed, lose, ect, it will cause this (I've had it happen SOOOOO many times on other vehicles). After that, battery, then starter. Most of the times when you're starter goes out it just doesn't turn, so check the other parts first before dumping money into replacing something that was fine...

Nilo 08-12-2005 04:37 AM

:D If you have a alarm system which came with the car make sure that it has not been activated. Other wise the car won't starr.

daiagaru2 08-12-2005 05:36 PM

yeah check everything they told you to check,wires,battery.engine cranks realy slow,starter seems to be good,however the charging system may be the culprit if all of your wire leads are good.look at the alternator it may not be charging the battery system enough to start the car after you've shut it off.if the security system has been tripped the starter cut of is activated completely cutting off current to the starter.if the starter is turning slowly then the secirity system has not been engaged.

87supraguy 08-15-2005 04:39 AM

the starter isnt the easiest thing to get off it took my cousin and i at least 6 hours to get mine replaced theres one bolt thats a pain in the a$$ to get too.

Poodles 08-15-2005 05:41 AM

Might be easier to pull the intake to get the starter off (bummer). Yeah, the factor alarm system will kill the ignition, forgot about that, get out of the car, lock the door, and then unlcok it again with the key and it should reset it.

monkihead 08-15-2005 08:17 AM

whoa dude! ive taken mine off without taking off the intake. put the car on some jackstands and look at it from the slave cylinder pov.

dcrusupra 08-17-2005 03:09 AM

yea, its mos def not the alarm. its definitely the starter. I have access to a lift because i know a guy that owns a Speedy's Oil Change here. So it might make it easier. And it's definitely not the battery or wires because they are both brand new. But the stater made me broke. I'm only 18 so i definitely have a lot of energy for it. And Supra's are damn fun to drive and work on. The only thing left is that i have to put on the steel braided brake lines brembo rotors and change my door hinges cuz the hinge pins are trashed the starter and i need a new paint job. and someone tell me if i would be better off puttin a turbo or a supercharger in it. thanx all.

dcrusupra 08-18-2005 02:16 AM

Yup.....starter.....It was in the worst place ever. Insanely hard to work with. But it didn't take 6 hours. It took 2 and a half at most. But I was working with a partner. I just put it up on one jack stand on the drivers side and went to work. I got to one bolt underneath the car and one thru the engine. The one thru the engine sucked. It was the hardest, most time consuming part of it. The starter is in a really tight place. I'm 6'2" so you can imagine my trouble getting my hands thru the engine and thru the undercarriage. And for anyone else doing this job.....the tools needed are either a 14 mm (9/16) open ended wrench for the bolts, and a 13 mm for the battery connection, and another person to hold the starter in place while u bolt it in. The oil pan is very much in the way of the starter by the way. Thank you all for the troubleshoots. She starts like a dream now. But still lookin for an answer.....supercharger or turbo charger..........?

Poodles 08-18-2005 10:31 PM

Turbo would be cheaper, since it's just a matter of buying the parts that where on the turbo cars...


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