which engine swap should I perform?
 

Hey

I just bought an 88 supra,a non turbo, 7mge, manual. Im thinking of swapping it for a 7mgte or a 1JZGTE. Im thinking I should go for the 1JZGTE for some reason, NOT the VVt-i version though, as I hear its hard to find parts for it. So what do you guys suggest? I WILL be doing aftermarket mods for w/e the engine will be, just BPU (exhaust, dp, flywheel, maybe even turbo) Also, do either of these engine work with the W58 tranny?

Thanks in advance

search feature my friend
there are a lot of pros and cons with every swap

we already compared the 7m, 1jz, and 2jz swap

o damn, this forum has a search. supraforums.com didn't have one...bastards.... :frown:

Hehehe, yea the search is nice. By the way, go 7M-GTE, too much of this 1J/2J stuff, lol.

supraforums has search u just need a like 100 post in order to use it

ya, I did the search, and it seems that both can make alot of hp, but that is something that I don't have to worry about, as I will DEFINITELY not go above ~330 whp. Also, I guess the availability/prices for 7mgte parts lean towards a college student. And whats this thing about the head gasket being notorious for blowing out? How hard is to replace a hg? my dad said its hard work, but he said he has never worked on supras therefore he really doesn't know.

search is MADE FOR NOOBS, therefore is makes NO sense reaching a level of 100 posts to start searching. not trying to argue with you, im trying to beat up a little on stupid supraforums.com. I think they're noob for making it so that search is limited to, as you said, ppl who have at least 100 posts. ridiculous :frown:

Thats great hand and it has absolutely nothing to do with an engine swap.

To answer a previous Q. No. the w series drive train will not work with either the 1j or any gt series engine.
330 hp would be nice in a supra. But if that's all you want.
Turboing may not be the solution. Because it will create more like 400 hp.

I guess you can go with something smaller than a t26 to get you close to your goal hp.

Wiring harness, ecu. You will be needing to get the right gear for your engine series.

The blown head gasket or bhg as we call it. Has either already happened or will happen soon after you put some miles on it.

If you mechanic it yourself. 2grand and some extra new parts. arp studs. walbro fuel pump. msd blastercoil. msd wired, iridium plugs. k&n filter.
Eibach springs and some tems capable shocks. The the body work and paint.

But all of that comes after you get her running. 88 means you can interchange some parts from 87 to 89. Same basic pattern for that model.

You won't hit 330 hp on an N/a car. But you can get close to 300hp Wich is decent given the sled that she'll be.

i mean 330 hp for a 7mgte or a 1jz, which it seems that i will be going for a 7mgte.

Also, then what tranny WILL work with a 7mgte?? :eek3:

I think you have to use the r series tranny with the gte. r54 or some shite.

okay, thats what i was reckoning too :)

So i guess im better off buying the "packages" not a front clip, the

ecu/wiring harness/engine/tranny

or should i get these seperately? :confused:

Ya and you should upgrade to a 6spd manual. It can't cost more than an extra 300/500 bucks.

Forget that front clip. That black lip spoiler on the front end is something like 250 bucks and it's toyota only.

Much better things to start with to get her running first.

What you need to be looking for is the entire front clip. And.......,
you need to be looking in canada I think for your best chance.

This way you get the entire thing. Ready to be stripped and rebuilt.
Other than that you'll have to piece it together.


It's like this dude. Parts on these cars....., spare no expense. If you think you're going to have to replace something just do it.

Spend the money. The car will pay for it self on the back side.

I have 10k into my 91 and have another 5k of shite to do.
I can never sell this car. I can only engine swap. And n/a ecu's are getting hard to find in the 7m series. Plenty of gte parts still to be found.

but if i get a clip from canada, won't that be a sh*tload for shipping?? I mean im down for doing what you said, but as long as I can get the complete package cheaper that I can in California (or USA for that matter)

And im thinking before I even think more about this swap, that I should sell my engine/tranny/ecu. And you said n/a ecu's are becmong scarce, maybe I can sell it for a fortune? :x:

You should be able to find the clip somewhere on the coast.
But it's going to have been sitting in salt water ridden air.
Bolts will just twist off. You should be able to piece it as well and probably get better parts.

You want to be choosey about those.

wait i didn't get that. i should be able to piece it? 0.o

god im stupid.. :(

Concider all options and rule out no part. Get the best, cleanest parts you can find. I lived in Long Beach. I know you can get parts easier than me.

Because half the shite I order comes from cali and the other half chicago.

a 6spd from a TT is about 3 grand
are you kidding me, if you can find one that would costs jus 300 350 extra
let me know cuz i want to get at least 3 of them

What's 3k for tranny upgrade???
It's going to cost that much to have it worked on if it shucks.

If I were going to swap trannies I would upgrade.
That's all I'm saying.

no, no 3k just for tranny, my car isn't even 3k!! Ill just do a 6 spd upgrade and pop the 7mgte engine right in. BUT NOOOOOW, im thinking i should just sell my car and get a turbo...idk if i should do that? :confused:

im trying to find a 6spd for myself but you wont see me drop 3k for my trans
if i see anything around 1500 area or even 2k ill take it
since i got a spare 154 bellhousing ying around my garage

If all you are wanting is 330 hp then it takes only a little bit from a 1JZ to get that you almost have to reinvent the 7m when you go big or above a certain point ask Aaron from driftmotion. A boost controller intercooler and a fuel rail and you can get over 330 from a factory 1JZ.