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tsupra89 11-07-2007 02:40 AM

i have a question in dire need of answering
 
alright i need some advice, ive heard that hks head gasket and arp head bolts are the best combo. but i have a bigger dilema mines automatic. i need to know if the stock 7mge transmission will fit into a 7mgte. i know the trannys are the same a340e but i dont know if they have different ratios or different internals. i need to know caus ei found a running supra for 400 bucks but i dont know if the n/a tranny will do the job for my turbo engine??? please get to me

abhattan 11-07-2007 05:48 PM

I would think not. The NA manual tranny doesn't work for the turbo cars, so I don't think the NA automatic would work for the turbo car. Not strong enough. Or different lengths.

tsupra89 11-08-2007 02:28 AM

actually i found out today, the automatic is the same in both models a340e but in the manual versions the non turbod supra is a w58 and it is weak, the one in the turbo is a r156 and it has very different internals so the autos are the same but the manuals arnt

tsupra89 11-08-2007 02:29 AM

bu tthank you for your feedback.

86_sports_1jz 11-08-2007 05:31 AM

the manual trannies are different but you can still use a non-turbo tranny w/ a turbo motor and viseversa. the only thing about that is that the w58 doesn't hold power like the r154

tsupra89 11-08-2007 03:50 PM

qyeah weaker internals so i would rather find a turbo tranny. but if anyone needs a good running supra for a g i know where one is, its been wrecked maybe like 3g damage but it runs and you can prolly get it for like 800 if you want to drive to asheville

86SupraMan 11-09-2007 03:44 PM

ok, so im sittin here now, wondering whether a Turbo tranny will swap into a non turbo car with no hiccups... anyone care to enlighten me?

supradaddy0803 11-09-2007 06:10 PM

Should be able to swap a turbo tranny into a N/A. If you get the R154 with the bellhousing for the 7MGTE they have the same housing. The only problem you will have is the driveshafts are different. But that is easily fixed if you get a solid driveshaft. I would say yeah go ahead and swap it but if you just wanna W58 I have one you can have just come get it. As for the different lengths on the W58 and the R154 they are the same length I measured because I wanted to know before I put my 1JZ in.

tsupra89 11-12-2007 04:50 PM

hey guys i have the answer to your solution the break down of the transmissions themselves.




http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...ock/tranny.jpg


and here is the info on the tranny's the gear ratios as well
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...k/89426384.gif

86SupraMan 11-13-2007 04:00 PM

hmm.. ok maybe tranny will need to wait till i get more cash lol, 1 more question ive bin wondering about, ive bin lookin at aftermarket throttlebodys, but theyre all for the GTE, would they fit in the GE? or would i need one specifically designed for the GE?

tsupra89 11-13-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 86SupraMan
hmm.. ok maybe tranny will need to wait till i get more cash lol, 1 more question ive bin wondering about, ive bin lookin at aftermarket throttlebodys, but theyre all for the GTE, would they fit in the GE? or would i need one specifically designed for the GE?


The TPS is mounted on the throttle valve body and sends a varying voltage signal to the ECU based on throttle valve position. The ECU can then adjust fuel delivery based on acceleration, deceleration, full throttle (WOT) or idle. The TPS inputs the ECU through terminal VTA.


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...k/41754095.gif



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...k/41761240.gif

the throtle body off a 7mge wont work on a 7mgte im shure it will bolt up but the routing is totally different as in the picture so your best bet is find one for a 7mge

tsupra89 11-13-2007 04:41 PM

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...k/41754414.gif


and here is what your resistance should be so the tps will fit for both

oowee623 11-13-2007 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsupra89
actually i found out today, the automatic is the same in both models a340e but in the manual versions the non turbod supra is a w58 and it is weak, the one in the turbo is a r156 and it has very different internals so the autos are the same but the manuals arnt

the autos on the gte might be a little stronger but i cant confirm that, the w58 is not by any means weak, it can hold up to 400hp, toyota doesnt make weak trannies, and its r154, not r156, that can hold loads of hp, front half of the driveshafts are all different on all models

tsupra89 11-13-2007 06:12 PM

yes i agree the trannys are both built powerful but i would much rathyer have the r154 because of the internals they built the r154 for the turbo and it it stronger then the w58 so i would rather go with the r154

oowee623 11-14-2007 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsupra89
yes i agree the trannys are both built powerful but i would much rathyer have the r154 because of the internals they built the r154 for the turbo and it it stronger then the w58 so i would rather go with the r154

i agree but no need to call the w58 weak

j3pz 11-15-2007 01:26 AM

unless you plan on going turbo i wouldnt worry about getting a r154. a w58 will be cheaper and is just as much fun to drive

tsupra89 11-16-2007 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by j3pz
unless you plan on going turbo i wouldnt worry about getting a r154. a w58 will be cheaper and is just as much fun to drive



i have a turbo im wanting to swap to manual. and i was wanting to know if they were the same but i did the reasearch and im showing everyone the differences in the trannies

oowee623 11-16-2007 07:04 AM

might wanna get lsd if you dont have one


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