V8 engine swaps
 

How hard would it be to put a dodge 318 V8 into a 1985 celica supra?

that could be about the dumbest engine swap i have ever heard of. why would you put a NON toyota engine in your supra? you wanna do a swap? do a 1JZ swap in. i think that could be the dumbest idea i've heard of in a long time.

Thr reason is because I have the engine

so sell it and buy a 1J.

Its not that hard if you can weld and fabricate..Youll have to make some new motor mounts and posibly new rear crossmember for the tranny..I dont think you can reuse the original tranny so youll have to get either a chrysler 727 to fit..And to answer the why do a V8 swap is dodge 318 average price $300 a good working 1 or 2JZ $1200 min..Anymore questions..Good luck on the swap man..

the 318 isnt bad and would definitely be nice to see in a supra. i'd say quite a bit off modifying and i'd worry most about the headers fitting once the motor is in.

you will need to modify the egine mount n also the tranny... cause like he said. you cannot reuse the original tranny. it woultnt bolt on you new v8 motor. well... i not into American car so donnt know that much. but hope you got it done if swap. n plz post up when you done swap want to see how was it.

are you guys insane? you want the guy to put a NON toyota engine in his supra? are you serious? no small block american motor could match the performance of the 1JZ GTE. with that being known and said, why still discuss this?

For one i want to see you get 600hp from a N/A Toyota motor..Cant be done but a small block V8 can... And two since there is going to be more room in front of the engine because there shorter he could put on a Vortech supercharger and get 800hp easy.. If he goes twin turbo You can just forget it and he will have spent probably half the price if not the same as you and still have more HP..Let him do what he wants thats why its called PERSONALIZATION...To bad if you dont like it so just STFU & GTFO!!

well my shrink says im not insane, so no. a non-toy motor makes some sense. i'd be better if she was a bit lighter. however, she does have an independant rear suspension, which makes for a very smooth ride. as for matching performance to a 1jzgte, its called the ls1. or you could do the ls2 if you've got spare cash.

I make the assumption that you've never heard of an LS1? LS2? LS6? LS7 is a big block, but either way it'd stomp a 1JZ. And get 18 miles to the gallon to boot.


Besides, I have a 1970 Corvette 350 in my 79 Z28, and have YET to have lost a race. about 4.5k to 5 grand max invested, and I've torn up one MK3, several SRT4's, one WRX, one WRX STI.


Moral of the story, ANYTHING can be fast.


Good luck with the swap. If you're in Reno, I could offer my fabrication skills.

ive seen a 85 supra with a 350 in it. he could hardly hold it on the road b/c it kept fishtailing. he had different mounts, battery relocated to the back, and chevy auto tranny. (w/ the stock auto shifter for a supra) lol it was soo funny. thats all i know about the car. the guy's dad built it so he didnt know anything about it. thats just what i could tell from looking at it for 30 minutes. it was CRAZY!!!!

well, i am an american car and toyota fan...and am into both of them. i think it is a good idea. the jz motors may have more hp/liter, but you can build a brand new chevy 350 (not sure on chrysler motor) with 330 hp for <2k$. dollar for horsepower, american motors cannot be beat, ever. I do have a lot of faith in the toyota 6s though. They are great motors. i personally wouldnt do the swap because i am...a purist? but im sure it would be possible and would be quite cool. Ive seen a small block in an original FWD mini cooper, so im sure it can be done.

Ive also seen datsun 240/280s like that(who hasnt), making me believe it would be easy in a supra. i have a video of a datsun with a paxton supercharger spinning wheels at highway speed. i wouldnt mind that

Also thought this was interesting

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/dec00supra.htm

Fairly easy swap if you have the tools and skill needed for the job. Adapters available for W58 tranny and moter mounts available also...stock tranny and rearend "should" take up to 450hp...I have seen rock crawlers with 800hp with built W58 trans and they have few, if any problems...Good Luck, and please be careful in it when your goal is accomplished, it would be a shame to total her out after all that effort and elbow grease:)

We have a local guy with a vette motor in his tiny RX7. Unbelievable power from a very tiny, light car... I'd be interested in how this swap went for future thoughts of my own.

I second that. im putting a ford twin turbo 427 stroker in an 87 supra and as far as import/domestic engine swaps go my dad is putting a ford turbo 347 stroker in an 84 porsche 944. some of the hottest cars were hybrids. just look at the shelby ac cobra. basically it is a car from england with a ford 427.

if you do it, ill take your ignition module and ecu for a price of course

alright ummm.... i might have two or three of them so make me a decent offer. I had three parts cars and one i am actually using for the transplant. so if there is anything u need let me know cause as far as the engine goes i have one engine and two of all the accessories and with the body/interior i have quite a few parts. just post n e thing u want.

Send me pics or details on the ignition module i have no fucking clue what that looks likie especially since it is no longer on the car.

i will take one ignition module from the original supra, i am willing to pay $50 for one, if this sounds good then let me know, but i cannot go any higher

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I always thought the LT1 corvette motor I have would be cool in my 83 Supra but taking measurments I do not think you can get the oil pan to clear the steering and front suspension.

If you really wanted some power and torque out of a supra, drop in a 427 stroked out from a 351. For 6k you can get a turnkey 5.8 bored and stroked to 427 with 500+ HP. Throw in a 4 speed manual or a C6 auto and you got a tire smoker.

if you really wanted a car with a v8, buy a muscle car then. a supra is meant to house a I-6 motor and that's what makes them. Unlike everybody else they used that instead of a V6. My idea is, if you have an american block, put it in an american car. And if you wanted a big V8 in the first place, why did you buy the supra? Think about it, then realize how stupid this is. Oh and by the way, one thing no one mentioned, the amount of piston power from the V8 making it move from side to side, would probally rip the chassis in peices, so you'd need either some NICE chassis mounts, or just say fuck it.

The purpose behind any custom car is to be unique. The purpose behind any racecar is to have high power to low weight. A MKII Supra weighs 3000 pounds, while a Muscle cars usually weight 2 tons or more. A Supra with the same engine as a muscle car would be much faster than a muscle car. The I-6 is nothing special, just a slightly tuned version of an engine configuration origianaly designed for Indy Racers. The V configuration is highly superior to that of the Inline configuration, which is why Toyota went with the V configuration for the later cars. Either way, anything done to any car to make it unique is good in my book.

understandable, but an american motor does not belong in a japaneese car. many other japaneese motors are pushing a whole lot more then any american engine. americans think big is always better. hell the new impala has a 5.7 litre V-8, but only 303 hp. subaru can use a 2.5 litre I4 to put out the same numbers as that. its stupid and a waste of time. and if you knew anything an I6 always had more torque then any V6 could have. the reason the V was made was for more even fuel distribution. with fuel injection, an I6 is more practical if you have the givin space

American motors are always superior in HP and torque than any Japanese motor. A Chevy 350 is capable of over 1200HP with BOLT-ON mods costing under 10 grand. A Japanese engine requires 10's of thousands of dollars worth of parts to equal that performance. If your looking for maximum power and minimum cost. An american V8 is far superior.

1200? HAH funny cars and F1 cars have a hard time putting out those numbers, and thier running 8 second quarter miles. you mean to tell me that a SMALL block chevy is able to do that? also, that 350 is wieghing in at over 1000 lbs. its stupid, dont bother. if your not contempt with the car, then sell it and buy something else. Mr.Ford here has his heart set so i wont argue anymore

1200HP small block chevy.

http://www.stevemorrisracingengines....72-1200hp.html

It is possible.

Since everyone is so agianst this putting a domestic muscle car V8 in there supra..How about a Toyota V8 like the 1UZFE out of Lexus line up..Here is a vid for ya'll..
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....6-3B5FB0148D73

Nice motor....but that didnt really prove anything. Plus modding that motor with hardly any aftermarket parts for it would make less sense and cost more than just keeping the 7m or j motor in in the first place. The reason they wana use an american v8 is for the performance/cost ratio and availability or engines and parts, Basically unlimited. Plus having a v8 is just cool (sound effects, braggins rights)

very possible. i second everything this guy says. i was looking to do the same thing with the 427 except i was going to spend another 2000 dollars and put twin turbos on it u can get 744 hp @ 5000 rpms and 798 ftlb @ 4500. that was my plan until i found a 302 DEstroker i can get 821 hp @ 8500 rpms and 714 ftlb @ 7500 rpms. (i have a engine dyno simulation program) less stress on the supra trans and rearend i have so i shouldnt shell it out to quickly.

It doesnt matter if you think its stupid, so dont rag on him for it. Its his car. The reason he wanted to put a v8 in is cause he has the supra already, And wants a bigger motor. Its that simple. And the chassis is perfectly capable of handling the extra rotational force. If that is too much for the car, It would have broken long ago with the 7m motor. That is probably the last thing i would worry about breaking. Maybe the rear end, half shafts, Rear suspension, Things like that.